Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-07-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 14/07/2023 08:16, Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez wrote: After much discussion, the AlmaLinux OS Foundation board today has decided to drop the aim to be 1:1 with RHEL. AlmaLinux OS will instead aim to be Application Binary Interface (ABI) compatible* Imagine Red Hat shutting down CentOS Stream

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-14 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
The side tag has been merged: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-18495e9c7c -- Best regards / S pozdravem, František Zatloukal Senior Quality Engineer Red Hat ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe sen

Re: Several questionable packages installed on fresh system

2023-07-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
(adding the list back on CC, since it seems this went private just by mistake) You know, my initial email listed 4 packages and removal of them might result in saving of tens of MBs. They are small on itself but they pull in much bigger dependency chains. And that typically happens just by ev

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-14 Thread Pavel Březina
On 7/13/23 23:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: Hi all, I'm opening this thread to trigger discussion of the roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 - whether the switch still looks doable for this release, or whether it should be reverted for F39 and postponed to F40. +1 for postponing. We have hit issues pre

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
Since DNF5 was forced upon me as a Rawhide user, I'd prefer to keep it this way and actually rename DNF5 back to DNF to have e.g. man pages correctly available. Vít Dne 13. 07. 23 v 23:59 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): Hi all, I'm opening this thread to trigger discussion of the roadmap for DN

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230714.n.0 changes

2023-07-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230713.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230714.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:12 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 7 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 165 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 2.93 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Orphaned python-blockdiag et al

2023-07-14 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
Greetings, Since Pillow 10 landed in f39 the following packages are FTBFS: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-blockdiag https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-actdiag https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-nwdiag https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-seqdiag Ever since the 3.0.0

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Frantisek, On Friday, 2023-07-14 09:22:06 +0200, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > The side tag has been merged: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-18495e9c7c Thank you very much for taking care of this! Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:29 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> > >> > Fedora lists are hostile to upstream collaboration via cross-posting, so >> > I can only forward this for your information. >> > >> > This causes problems

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 14. 07. 23 v 13:53 Florian Weimer napsal(a): What about impact beyond the builders? Are end users are expected to do this? Do we have a tool for this? Close to zero. You have to do a really lots of builds. And keep the buildroots of these (failed) builds. For normal users the buildroots

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-14 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 14. 07. 23 v 2:11 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 12:26:27AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 13. 07. 23 v 23:59 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): - rawhide mock / koji builds still default to dnf-3 (DNF 4) Support for DNF5 landed in Mock https://rpm-software-management.github.io/

Possible to combine ExclusiveArch?

2023-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
For some virt packages we need to combine 2 or 3 of: ExclusiveArch: %{kernel_arches} ExclusiveArch: %{qemu_sysemu_host_arches} # [1] ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_native_compiler} to mean only compile on the intersection of these arches. If you have multiple ExclusiveArch lines then RPM see

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I've been actually using dnf5 daily and while it's a little rough around the edges it seems usable enough. Here are some notes ... (1) The allow_vendor_change option makes things strange. I think this feature should be turned off (ie True) until it is fixed properly. https://github.com/rpm-soft

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miroslav Suchý: > Dne 14. 07. 23 v 13:53 Florian Weimer napsal(a): >> What about impact beyond the builders? >> >> Are end users are expected to do this? Do we have a tool for this? > > Close to zero. You have to do a really lots of builds. And keep the > buildroots of these (failed) builds. T

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:48 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Miroslav Suchý: > > > Dne 14. 07. 23 v 13:53 Florian Weimer napsal(a): > >> What about impact beyond the builders? > >> > >> Are end users are expected to do this? Do we have a tool for this? > > > > Close to zero. You have to do a reall

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 09:49:04AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:48 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > * Miroslav Suchý: > > > > > Dne 14. 07. 23 v 13:53 Florian Weimer napsal(a): > > >> What about impact beyond the builders? > > >> > > >> Are end users are expected to do this

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-07-14 Thread Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez
On 7/14/23 00:02, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 14/07/2023 08:16, Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez wrote: After much discussion, the AlmaLinux OS Foundation board today has decided to drop the aim to be 1:1 with RHEL. AlmaLinux OS will instead aim to be Application Binary Interface (ABI) compa

Self Introduction: Elliot

2023-07-14 Thread Elliot L
Hi, my name is Elliot and I am a digital humanities student. In the open source world, I've made some small contributions to desktops such as Budgie and Xfce and I hope to do more work in this area. I also know basic RPM packaging and I would like to contribute to Fedora in the packaging field.

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 9:58 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 09:49:04AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:48 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > > * Miroslav Suchý: > > > > > > > Dne 14. 07. 23 v 13:53 Florian Weimer napsal(a): > > > >> What about impa

Ownership of Go packages

2023-07-14 Thread W. Michael Petullo
I would like to take ownership of the following Go packages, which releng recently orphaned: golang-github-bep-godartsass golang-github-disintegration-gift golang-github-evanw-esbuild golang-github-evanw-esbuild-0.8.20 golang-github-getkin-kin-openapi golang-github-rwcarlsen-goexif golang-goclou

Orphaned Zim

2023-07-14 Thread Robin Lee
I've orphaned the Zim package. It fails to build with Python 3.12 in Rawhide. Users can move to the flatpak on Flathub, which is also packaged by me. -robin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Ownership of NVML

2023-07-14 Thread Emanuel Lima
I would like to take ownership of the nvml package, which was recently orphaned, because kata-containers depends on it. -- Kind Regards, Emanuel Lima Software Engineer, Virtualization CI ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

non-responsive maintainer check for anthr76

2023-07-14 Thread Mark E. Fuller
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964 This email is part of the non-responsive maintainer procedure for anthr76, following https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/. Please respond if you are still active in Fedora and want to maint

Re: Self Introduction: Elliot

2023-07-14 Thread stan via devel
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:20:28 - "Elliot L" wrote: > Hi, my name is Elliot and I am a digital humanities student. In the > open source world, I've made some small contributions to desktops > such as Budgie and Xfce and I hope to do more work in this area. I > also know basic RPM packaging and I

Re: non-responsive maintainer check for anthr76

2023-07-14 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
Hi Mark, Anthony announced a hiatus a couple of months ago: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/gol...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/5NUXD4CESPDXKV6NQL2QDQAZP4BTQF2I/ As go-sig has permissions I guess you can continue updating the package once unretired. Regards, Mikel Hau idatzi du

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-14 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
Hau idatzi du Fabio Valentini (decatho...@gmail.com) erabiltzaileak (2023 uzt. 13(a), og. (14:27)): > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:01 PM Mikel Olasagasti > wrote: > > > > Hau idatzi du Fabio Valentini (decatho...@gmail.com) erabiltzaileak > > (2023 uzt. 12(a), az. (11:53)): > > > > > > On Tue, Jul

Re: Ownership of NVML

2023-07-14 Thread Jeff Moyer
Hi, Emanuel, Emanuel Lima writes: > I would like to take ownership of the nvml package, which was recently > orphaned, because kata-containers depends on it. Out of curiosity, what depends on nvml? The kata-containers packages does not appear to. I saw reference to nvml in the configure-hyper

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:28:36AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > The 32-bit binary is what suffers the consequences. > > > > The workload that /causes/ the problem can be anything which creates > > lots of files. > > > > I am aware of that, but having something concretely easily > reproducible

Re: Ownership of NVML

2023-07-14 Thread Emanuel Lima
It's indirect. Qemu depends on nvml and then kata-containers depends on qemu. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 11:26 AM Jeff Moyer wrote: > Hi, Emanuel, > > Emanuel Lima writes: > > > I would like to take ownership of the nvml package, which was recently > > orphaned, because kata-containers depends on

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 09:28:15AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: ...snip... > > * Today / soon, I will just reinstall all the buildvm-x86 vm's. > Thats pretty trivial to do (thanks ansible). It may cause some builds to > restart as I move things around, but it shouldn't be too much. ok, this is done.

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/14/23 6:53 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Neal Gompa: On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:29 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Florian Weimer wrote: Fedora lists are hostile to upstream collaboration via cross-posting, so I can only forward this for your information. Thi

Re: blocked for tag f39-updates-candidate

2023-07-14 Thread Jeremy Newton
Ah thanks so much! This is my first time unretiring something :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/proj

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Eric Sandeen said: > XFS does have a hack^Wmount option to force inodes into the 32-bit > range, but just FWIW we almost never see users running into problems > with 32-bit applications (but maybe because they know about the > mount option...) Aren't even most 32-bit application

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/14/23 17:32, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Eric Sandeen said: >> XFS does have a hack^Wmount option to force inodes into the 32-bit >> range, but just FWIW we almost never see users running into problems >> with 32-bit applications (but maybe because they know about the >> mount opti

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:45 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > On 7/14/23 6:53 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:29 AM Fabio Valentini > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Florian Weimer > >>> wrote: > > Fedora lists are host

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/14/23 4:47 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:45 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: On 7/14/23 6:53 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Neal Gompa: On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:29 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Florian Weimer wrote: Fedora lists are hostil

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Scott Talbert
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:45 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > But that still raises the question - why does it look like this > started to happen pretty suddenly around June 30? > The list of updates that were applied to builders in that timeframe > doesn't raise any alarm bells (except maybe the 6.