Re: Decision on Fedora Product branding: Fedora $PRODUCT 21 vs Fedora 21 $PRODUCT

2014-10-21 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Should be Fedora 21 $PRODUCT because the Fedora version is underneath the product, and one product can usually convert into another on an installed system. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedo

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Everyone does not need reopen: just the ability to change the version > would suffice. (Unless there are serious worries about the risk of > allowing users to deface version fields?) I think auto-expiration would > work great with this twe

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 15:04 -0800, David Timothy Strauss wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: >> > TBH I thought the whole point was that the reporter was expected to update >> > the versio

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > Sure it does - it tells them to update the version if the problem still > occurs. Those instructions start with "Package Maintainer:" so they are not directed at the people experiencing the bug. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > TBH I thought the whole point was that the reporter was expected to update > the version if they wanted it to stay open so I'm a bit surprised to hear > that they can't unless they are also a packager. Regular bug reporters definitely can't. Of

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > The idea of not closing bugs that have comments after the EOL > notification doesn't necessarily make things better, I don't think; we'd > just have errors in the other direction. Say someone dropped a note 'oh > yeah, this is working now!'

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David Timothy Strauss wrote: > Telling me to join a group is also not addressing my complaint. My > complaint is that Fedora is auto-setting EOL on bugs with no clear way > for even the users who reported the bugs to stop it from happening. > Obviously

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Quite a lot of people have editbugs - I think it's in the hundreds or > thousands I mean "few people" in the sense that it requires a specific grant of permissions, more than to just report bugs. Telling me to join a group is also not addr

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote: > You just need to change the Version tag. That is not something I appear to have access to do. And, if I don't, very few people do. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedo

Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Like this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959071 I specifically followed up to say the issue continues in Fedora 19, and nothing changed. The bug tracker should not expire bugs if there's been a comment after the EOL warning. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Fedora Server PRD Draft and call for participation

2014-01-21 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > Fedora: > o bleeding edge, where new stuff comes Cutting edge. Let's not ride the metaphor overly far [1]. We do actually test a fair bit before releasing Fedora or package updates. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge_technol