Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Murphy
gt; Jan Is this a different scenario? ~$ repoquery --whatprovides libnetapi* samba-client-libs-2:4.2.0-2.fc22.x86_64 samba-client-libs-2:4.2.0-2.fc22.x86_64 dnf repoquery did require the full text as your example above. dnf-0.6.5-1.fc22.noarch yum-utils-1.1.31-27.fc22.noarch ___ Regards Fra

Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:21:43 +0200 Mathieu Bridon wrote: > One thing I've seen a few times at the time Yum didn't have that > protection was « I don't do development, so I can remove Python » > > It did lead to a few people not having Yum installed any more. > I don't have all the history\chag

Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:25:46 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310#c29 ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproje

Re: GSoC feedback.

2014-03-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:59:35 +0530 Vidhun Vinod wrote: > Hey everyone, > I'm currently working on refining the GSoC idea "Infrastructure for > FreeMedia group". As someone on the Freemedia team, would you mind letting us know what your trying to do? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: Why is not included JFS on Anaconda?

2014-02-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 03:34:28 + Álvaro Castillo wrote: > Could be include JFS into Anaconda to next release? What's your > opinion about JFS? Apology wrong thread, in prior email: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-February/009195.html ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com --

Re: Why is not included JFS on Anaconda?

2014-02-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 03:34:28 + Álvaro Castillo wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Just that. Why is not included JFS on Anaconda? > At the moment there is a thread on "Desktop" what anaconda should do for a workstation: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-February/009136.html

Re: advertisement in packaged software (e.g. Firefox)

2014-02-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:31:04 -0500 Matthias Clasen wrote: > I can't imagine having very obnoxious and prominents advertisements in > the flagship applications that we install by default. But an > application that is otherwise useful to our users should probably not > be banned from the package un

Re: New UEFI guide on the wiki

2014-02-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:14:06 -0800 Andrew Lutomirski wrote: that in the wiki. > > (This is a particular pain point for me -- my main development box was > originally installed as BIOS, and I switched it to UEFI, and I'm sure > I did it wrong because the boot process is impressively finicky.) > H

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:50:59 +0100 Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Frank Murphy [31/01/2014 11:22] : > > > > Personally, I know currently, most DEs' can be installed with yum > > groupinstall. But, that may not always be the case. > > I'm going to go in the

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:53:17 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > > Personally, I know currently, most DEs' can be installed with yum > > groupinstall. But, that may not always be the case. > > I haven't seen any indication that anyone wants that to change as part > of .next. I do sincerely hope you

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:34:17 +0100 Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > Fedora isn't a Gnome OS, perhaps that's what they're trying to > convey; making it one will most probably create less confusion but > I'm sure it will also make us less relevant (my personal opinion). Currently it's not, it is a default DE,

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:20:18 -0500 Matthias Clasen wrote: > I've seen mails on this list recently where people proudly stated that > they would continue to advertise one particular spin at conferences > etc The current product is not Gnome, it is Fedora. And if asked about Xfce, which I solely u

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:03:48 -0500 (EST) Stephen Gallagher wrote: > What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at > least some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the > larger Fedora ecosystem. This would indicate that the "dropping" or > de-promoting the spin

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:47:04 -0500 Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On one hand, I am impressed by many spins as an excellent technology > demonstration. On the other hand, what should existing users of a > base Fedora do if they find an useful spin with a superior > functionality? If its function is n

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:35:54 +0100 H. Guémar wrote: > but they won't get coverage from > marketing and ambassadors Please don't include me in that, I will always talk about Fedora supplied Xfce to all who will listen. and supply said media to those that ask, if I can. ___ Regards, Frank www.f

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100 Johannes Lips wrote: > Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use > their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this money thing > too much. > I didn't introduce the money angle, just putting into Common language, what has been

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:15:56 +0100 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > Personally I always felt that this symbiotic relationship was a big > part of > > what made Fedora interesting. > > Yes, but please don't paint Red Hat bussiness goals as "Fedora > community goals". There is some intersection, but not

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:40:40 -0500 (EST) Christian Schaller wrote: > The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else > Red Hat needs for future versions of RHEL) are provided by Red Hat. > So if you want the spins to the logically the same in terms of > resources we should s

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:58:22 -0500 Josh Boyer wrote: > I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think > they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large > or small it might be. I also think they can be done by the people > wishing to provide them withou

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:39:03 -0600 Jon wrote: > Another aspect I worry about is the mirroring stuff. > With the coming WGs I fear the rsync mirroring will grow very large, > and spins are an attractive piece of fat to cut. > Reducing size is something we worry about on the infra, rel-eng side > o

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:03:08 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Well, one of the things we need to decide is whether we address Spins > at all during the F21 timeframe. I suspect that QA will ask for a > reprieve on that score. > By "Spins" do you mean 1: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora#de

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100 David Sommerseth wrote: > > Hi all, > > This might be a viewed as a fire torch, but there is, IMO, a major > regression in BlueZ 5 which is shipped in Fedora 20. It doesn't > support HSP/HFP headset profiles, which enables the microphone on > many bluetooth h

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:15:35 +0100 drago01 wrote: > So it happened .. how do we prevent it in the future? How did it pass > testing? Would a gui yumex\PK have burped at the update? Would the two testers have seen the script errors. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list d

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:15:35 +0100 drago01 wrote: > So it happened .. how do we prevent it in the future? How did it pass > testing? I don't think it got manually tested. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:23:42 -0500 Scott Schmit wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:47:37PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > > > I replaced the typo scriplet -> scriptlet in several places in > > > that page, including the anchor link. Don'

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:23:42 -0500 Scott Schmit wrote: > The text of the announcement made sense, but the link doesn't point to > anything -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs exists, but > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#RPM_scriplets_fail_during_updates > doesn't poi

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:15:19 +0100 Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi guys, > > first $SUBJ is available at: > > http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/ > > It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse > youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview. > Aside: Listening to \v

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:22:52 +0100 Maros Zatko wrote: > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 > What can do users who doesn't want that gtk3 port? > For some users reasoning that "it works better in gnome-shell" is > just not enough. > I don't use Gnome, works fine in Xfce (F

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:16:52 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > You can also "after some research" > > modify the dnf-makecache.service file > > to change the frequency of makecache. > > It's a lot cleaner to just define a metadata expiry time in the > repository config file. Discovered aft

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:49:09 +0100 Martin Stransky wrote: > Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent > official ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should > better fit to Gnome 3 desktop, use themes/skins and so. > I have Xfce but is it ok to test it? If it

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:38:39 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > No. This command is accepted (to my surprise). But it delete nothing. > And just create new directory sturcture in '/var/cache/yum/x86_64/*'. > That does suck then if someone with more that F20 cache needs to clean. as Harald posted yo

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:09 + Tom Hughes wrote: > > You can also "after some research" > > modify the dnf-makecache.service file > > to change the frequency of makecache. > > I don't think that will help as that service simply controls when it > considers updating - the expire_metadata set

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:51:27 + Frank Murphy wrote: > Where is this setting? > besides metadata expire in *.repos. > I couldn't find in on the wiki Duh! man 8 dnf.conf, so behaviour can be changed without running dnf clean * && dnf update for those that may wa

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:09 + Tom Hughes wrote: the expire_metadata setting still applies, Where is this setting? besides metadata expire in *.repos. I couldn't find in on the wiki ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" > > if your intention is truly to remove all cache. > > Not true if you ever used --releasev

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:06:30 -0500 "Garry T. Williams" wrote: > > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\* > You can also "after some research" modify the dnf-makecache.service file to change the frequency of ma

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:36:38 +0100 Alec Leamas wrote: > If you continue reading the thread you'll see what happened (short > story: too late fo rme) > --alec > > Refreshing my email would have helped, too early for me :( ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:43:13 +0100 Alec Leamas wrote: > First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled > repos. Or should not have. "yum clean all" refers to cleaning all > metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one single repo, be it > implicit (the default link) or

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:51:22 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > Right, I missed that bit. > > > to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" if your intention is truly to remove all cache. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:56:31 +0100 Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > Well, I can use dnf in it's current shape quite fine and it works > faster than yum which I take as an improvement, so for me it's ok. So > what now? > > --Jirka > > Then add your voice to the bz to keep it as is. ___ Regards,

Re: Which Fedora: 19 or 20?

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:15:54 -0800 John Chludzinski wrote: > 20 is the latest but 19 is the base code for RHEL 7. Assuming they're > not too different, is there an advantage to going with 19 since it's > what RHEL 7 is based on? > If your not installing RHEL on the laptop, does it make a diffe

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:28:59 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310 It seems the majority want the current dnf default [1] to be kept Those who want to keep "running" kernel may nee

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 14:56:04 -0500 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > * yum remove kernel vs dnf remove kernel difference (unfiled? ) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310 ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:37:23 +0100 Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > Maybe this time you'll answer my question. > Read Vit's comment and my cli "command" suggestion to it! you may get the answer, instead of looking for meanings' not required https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:12:39 +0100 Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > I'm sorry for misunderstanding a command that didn't come with a > single sentence. > >"dnf remove kernel --all" >to remove "all" What's to misunderstand ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:52:52 +0100 Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > I'm sorry I don't understand your answer. > > Dridi > > I can't make it any simpler. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/deve

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:16:16 +0100 Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > dnf remove kernel --all > > I assume you're suggestion that `dnf remove kernel` should only remove > the latest kernel. How do you make that out. Have you ever used "yum remove kernel" "dnf remove kernel --all" to remove "all" __

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:48:16 +0100 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 6.1.2014 23:26, Chris Murphy napsal(a): > > Since "* remove kernel" appears to be inspecific, removing all > > kernels isn't what I'd expect. It's not how mv or cp or anything > > else would work. > > > > So why not turn this around. In

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 12:38:46 -0700 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > If an expert says "no ordinary user" would ever do a command, they > have not worked front line Tech Support recently enough. > User- can you replace my modem, it doesn't work CSR: - can you do x,y,z . User: - No none work. CSR:

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:30:20 +0100 poma wrote: > On 04.01.2014 21:09, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Because yum's code is a mess. > > curl -s http://www.textfiles.com/art/monkey.vt > From Yum with Love. > > > poma > > I don't think that helps ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- dev

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:16:36 +0100 "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote: > Ah, did not know that, if you try to auto complete yum only remove > shows up, but erase also works. So perhaps erase was an afterthought, > to mimic the rpm behavior. If rpm has erase, and yum also can use > erase, perhaps erase is

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:33:43 -0500 "Jared K. Smith" wrote: > That was my understand as well (as of about a year ago), but I don't > know if that's still the current plan or not. > > -- > Jared Smith Do you mean dnf will obsolete yum In that "dnf will be called yum" If so, can it be extended beyo

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 14:36:08 -0500 Steve Clark wrote: > If is a drop in replacement for yum - then why not call it yum, then > there is "no" learning curve. > It's not a d.i.r.: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/193312.html ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com --

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 11:17:28 +0100 Olav Vitters wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 03:53:48AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Olav Vitters wrote: > > > AFAIK (not sure), it should come somewhat easy once you the > > > distribution is based upon systemd. > > > > That means it will exclude the most po

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:24:20 -0400 Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: Will the other DE's still exist after "workstation" Will a dev be able to use Xfce, Lxde as graphical choice. What would encourage say an xubuntu dev //* devs are still users */ working on foo, to switch to "Fedora Wor

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:35:30 +0100 "Nicolas Mailhot" wrote: > And if that is the case, there is a huge disconnect between GNOME > goals and Fedora Workstation goals. GNOME speakers repeat all year > round their software is not aimed at "power users", but developers > are the über power user. > N

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:53:15 +0100 drago01 wrote: > Depends on what you mean by "power user" (I hate this meaningless > term) if it means "software developer" then > yes. If it means "someone that spends his whole day in config > dialogs" then no. Maybe? http://www.techterms.com/definition/poweru

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:21:23 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > The average user don't use nightly builds and should not be > interested in such experimental software. They do if they believe version N+, will fix\give feature X that is nice to have. and give feedback to upstream on use. -- R

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:03:45 +0100 drago01 wrote: > Apps shipping from upstream direcly does not have to be closed > source. Firefox for instance could use that, or libreoffice, or > eclipse. If a user needs a newer version (or nightly build) without > having upstream worry about the specific dis

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 04:22:33 + Frankie Onuonga wrote: > > I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we > can do for ourselves. It is a nice to have concept. But Fedora users (even new ones) will use whatever "search engine" they are comfortable\familiar with. -- Regar

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 03:05:16 + (UTC) Ben Boeckel wrote: > Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use > DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites? > !fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki, etc.? > > --Ben > Couldn't care if they had a camera in me

Re: PATH has /bin before /usr/bin in upgraded rawhide

2013-10-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:59:33 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > /home/sandro/.local/bin in the PATH is not the default. > Or is it new for Rawhide? This in in F20 for me as user: ~$ echo $PATH .../home/frank/.local/bin:/home/frank/bin so the bit with the name seems to be branched at least -- R

Re: Ambassadors places in new Working Groups

2013-10-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:34:01 +0100 Nobrakal wrote: > In my mind, Ambassadors are more near of users than developers or > marketing team. Ambassadors organize all the events, submit new > idea... It is really important to have at least an ambassador in WG > > Alexandre It is also important to ha

Re: How to create another one maillist?

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:31:28 +0400 Peter Lemenkov wrote: > - one for Erlang, and another one for Golang. Could please anyone > help me - where should I start? > Open a ticket with fedora infra, saying what you need. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Tickets -- Regards, Frank www.

Re: how to withdraw glusterfs from epel?

2013-10-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:03:28 -0400 "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" wrote: > Okay, I'm okay with that. How about instead of a /etc/yum.repos.d/ > file if it's a /usr/share/doc/glusterfs.README containing > instructions for how to use the community GlusterFS yum repo? > Are you allowed make a people repo? ht

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:16:40 +0200 Alec Leamas wrote: > > Thanks for replying- this slipped through my inbox. You can also > > see > if your package was built successfully by visiting > > > http://arm-temp.ausil.us/pub/fedora-arm/stage4/http://arm-temp.ausil.us/pub/fedora-arm/stage4/ > > > Hm,

Re: How to mount USB memory stick on F18 on Dracut

2013-10-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:04:27 +0100 Aaron Gray wrote: > Hi , > > I need to get bug report from Dracut onto a USB Memory stick on F18 > that is not booting properly on latest F18 kernel. Usually the > memory stick appears on /dev/sda but its not there on Dracut > > Many thanks in advance, > > Aa

Re: are you annoyed by frequent password prompts?

2013-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:10:48 +0200 drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > > Random crap from the internet not a good idea. > > Since firefox can out and crab stuff to install, and I would > > never no. > > No one is that insane ;) This is all about signed p

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:57:38 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Well, I think many folks won't like the extra disk space used. More than likely, but if they are interested in testing maybe not.? > > I think it would take something like yum-plugin-local to have a > proper repo that yum could see to

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:15:11 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > That sounds like it would be a lot of duplication in mirrormanager > and other parts of the project. ;) > > kevin Why not do it's on the users PC\Laptop. (As a change\feature?) /etc/yum.repos.d/updates.repo (ditto testing if enabled) keep

Re: Rawhide tree now includes install images

2013-07-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:41:22 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This allows users to use the latest boot.iso or pxe images to > install rawhide instances or point to rawhide as a install-able > tree. > > kevin Will this be possible through bfo ? -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check fo

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:26:48 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 16.07.13 13:11, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote: > > You do understand that this: > > > But -x is one of the good benefits. > > Giving explanation. > > and this: > > > size

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:22:07 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > but as a test do: > > echo | journalctl -x --no-pager --since-today | mailx -s "Today's > > Journal" user (real isp email ) > > What's the "echo |" supposed to do? For some reason first few emails, without it had nothing. Could b

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:53:56 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Nobody is talking about removing from the distribution entirely > and quite frankly administrators that complain about journal have > not actually tried it and experienced the flexibility the journactl > gives them it truly i

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:44:44 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog > > Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , > Matthew Miller > > No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. > (S

Re: [Devel] Orphaning be and python-storm

2013-07-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:28:51 +0800 Christopher Meng wrote: > And please fix the bug 963158 > > Thanks! Please let him take a breath! -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:52:25 -0500 Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > The tooling can not make split media. its not possible. I meant us in Freemedia? on our own pcs -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:44:36 -0500 Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > no, because pungi the tool that creates the source dvd doesnt > support split media. I actually want to stop making source dvds all > together. but that will need legal approval first. note we don't > actually make and source dvds at

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:13:01 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: Apology for self-reply Any further thoughts on this. Can we split the SRPMS dvd ourselves over two? Found something Boardy from 2008: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/4277 -- Regards, Frank "Wh

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:42:22 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > (Our legal obligations may be discharged simply by the fact we keep > the entire frozen tree, including SRPMs, for each release on the > mirror, but that's an entirely different bikeshed and IANAL). https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-lice

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:45:25 +0200 drago01 wrote: > > Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just download the > ones they are interested in? https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html It's the downloading bit that can be the problem. -- Regards, Frank "When in dou

Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
Freemedia Hat on. Seeing the other thread where size limits have been spoken about: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-June/184345.html Looking at: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora-18-source-DVD.torrent 8.8GB Hazard a guess F19 will be similar. It's pushed the limit of s

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:20:56 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: The only MTA I've seen handlie both SMARTHOST and /etc/aliases > correctly was "exim",. which is no longer included by default and > for which the necessary configuration is not widely published nor > in the default documentation. > ht

Re: yum tidy-cache

2013-05-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 5 May 2013 14:45:17 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: Apology for self reply > but repomanage seems to act on a named dir, > as distinct from working on yum cachedir. > > Am uncertain as to use in culling all repos within keepcache=1 > It may work as "repomanage -n /var/

Re: yum tidy-cache

2013-05-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 05 May 2013 06:35:37 -0700 John Reiser wrote: > > Asking was yum tidy-cache ever in Fedora? > > http://freecode.com/projects/tidy-yum-cache-plugin > > How does that compare to "repomanage -o" from the yum-utils package? > That's not a plugin, but it does say which are the obsoleted > pac

yum tidy-cache

2013-05-05 Thread Frank Murphy
Asking was yum tidy-cache ever in Fedora? http://freecode.com/projects/tidy-yum-cache-plugin No upstream activity since 2009: Couldn't find any mention of it being so using term "yum-tidy-cache" -- Regards, Frank - I check for new mail every 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@l

Re: Maybe OT: "sharecache"

2013-05-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 5 May 2013 09:38:10 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: Never mind man nfs: sharecache / nosharecache -- Regards, Frank - I check for new mail every 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Maybe OT: "sharecache"

2013-05-05 Thread Frank Murphy
Got an idea am working on. Need to know if anything Fedora*ish is using the word "sharecache" in any form. I just don't know how to check everything. Except ask here.. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: audacity

2013-04-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:20:30 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > This is nonsense. There are enough "licenses for the linux > > environment". A lot of vendors have licensed MP3 en/decoders that > > work on the linux. The point is that there is no licensed open > > source mp3 en/decoder. > > Name

Re: audacity

2013-04-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:09:30 -0700 Richard Vickery wrote: > For F18, it appears that the Audacity mp3 build is broken - it won't > install - and mp3 support is rather important to me; is it possible > to get this particular build working? Important or otherwise, Fedora don't build in mp3 support

Re: Login to Koji

2013-04-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:51:37 +0200 Thomas Moschny wrote: ;) > > Agreed in principle. On the other hand, all these possible solutions > require something running on my side permanently :( > > -- Thomas http://blogtrottr.com/about/ then use your email filters. -- Regards, Frank http//www.frank

Re: LightDM is absent?

2013-04-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:30:25 +0400 Eugene Pivnev wrote: > I can't find lightd, package in Fedora - If it was lightdm package you were looking for, repeat the test, but click "packages" -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Re: [PATCH] Why not Zoidberg?

2013-03-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 06:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > "Names of living people or well-known trademarks or goods will be > rejected by Red Hat Legal." > why not on Rawhide do: Release Name: $^&*"'#~?@% and any other characters that may cause boot problems. Hopefully there is no-one

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:33:24 + "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:16:27AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > I don't think users would expect that install of dnf would > > without asking (or control) automatically run dnf-makecache. > > Heh. That's one of the things I love a

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:52:30 +0100 "Nicolas Mailhot" wrote: > > Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit : > > What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using > > dracut to trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something > > along the lines: "Press ESC to see deatils

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

2013-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:52:12 + Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > Looking forward to testing this in F19 guests. -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:56:17 +0800 Christopher Meng wrote: > Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per > release. > > Maybe this is the best solution. No, it's not a Screensaver. -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:14:22 +0100 Sandro Mani wrote: > Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way > that the download button points to something similar to the current > "More options" page, maybe with a small description for each > desktop like "easy to use" / "feature ri

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:59:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/files/critical-path/old/critpath.py > > I've been using yum-local here, but it's not as handy as I thought > it might be. ;( > > > modify yum-local to keep say 5 copies? > > (in case something hits the fa

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:55:07 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and > have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have > run into in the last month. > As a non-Dev, but running rawhide. Hence reply here.

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