Re: F17 Alpha and VMWare Fusion

2012-03-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:03 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: When's the last time this has been confirmed to work? It always worked, for example for: Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso It crashes even with /usr/bin/X and xorg-x11-drv-vmware-11.0.3-13.fc17.x86_64 (not just in the installer):

Re: F17 Alpha and VMWare Fusion

2012-03-06 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:43:23 +0100, Mark Bidewell wrote: Last night I attempted an install of F17 Alpha on VMWare Fusion. 1) My first attempt was using the install DVD. I was redirected into a text installer, I was not prompted to select packages. The resulting install hard lock starting SSH

Re: gcc 4.7 changes binary behaviors ?

2012-01-26 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:12:43 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: /usr/bin/kmk_sed: file /builddir/build/BUILD/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/src/VBox/Runtime/common/err/errmsg.sed line 31: Unmatched [ or [^ kmk: *** [/builddir/build/BUILD/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/obj/obj/Runtime/errmsgdata.h] Error 1 kmk: ***

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.7.0-0.1.fc17

2012-01-03 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:03:44 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: The tested version (the one in rawhide) is iwhd-1.1, while the latest is 1.2 (which is in F16). Shame on me for not putting the latest also in rawhide. If you never do a build in Rawhide - your latest build is the F16 one - Rawhide

Re: fedpkg push with non-default id_rsa.pub

2012-01-01 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:57:07 +0100, Neal Becker wrote: How do I use fedpkg push with a non-default key? fedpkg push --help gives no clue. I need to use id_rsa.fedora.pub. Using in ~/.ssh/config: IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity IdentityFile

Re: How to prevent a binary from being stripped by rpmbuild?

2011-12-10 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 01:32:01 +0100, David Howells wrote: Thus the strip program used (from the wrong binutils) appears to corrupt the binary. rpmbuild uses eu-strip, not strip. Therefore elfutils, not binutils. See: /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh Regards, Jan -- devel mailing list

Re: How to prevent a binary from being stripped by rpmbuild?

2011-12-10 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:20:37 +0100, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: rpmbuild uses eu-strip, not strip.  Therefore elfutils, not binutils. See: /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh That's if debuginfo packages are enabled

Re: How to prevent a binary from being stripped by rpmbuild?

2011-12-10 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:15:24 +0100, David Howells wrote: Interesting: + eu-strip -g /data/cross-gcc/cross-gcc/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/cross-gcc-4.6.2-1.fc16.1.x86_64/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/4.6.2/libgcov.a

Re: DWARF 4

2011-12-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:20 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: F16 gdb doesn't support DW_OP_entry_value and typed DWARF stack extensions I think, you need to wait for F17 for that. These features are not yet in Rawhide, they are in FSF GDB HEAD, it should be in Rawhide in a week or so. I do not

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:26:44 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: (3) He is not going to wait for installation of new games to try them. He wants to just click and run the game - like he does with Flash games, immediately. I have no problem running there: yum --setopt

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-26 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:40:58 +0100, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Here is what my F14 laptop has: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/packagekit.png It can be configured to only show end-user graphical applications That's not enough. I use my grandfather unaffected by prior MS-Windows experience as a

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:20:56 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: I already gave a reason why we should maintain these packages as RPM, but unfortunately you have trimmed that part of my mail: There is no way to install and manage extensions globally for all users on a computer. There is also no

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:34:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of broken displays' EDID. If not blacklisting then whitelisting them, you have the community. This is X.org's task, though. Regards, Jan -- devel mailing list

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-01 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:33:13 +0200, drago01 wrote: but the suspend does not work on desktop argument is simply not true Not replying to metoo/flames but neither suspend nor hibernate worked reliably for me through years on notebook (T60). Depending on BIOS and kernel versions the former or

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:02:04 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote: about the 'fedora' branch of upstream glibc. GDB uses a similar style for the merged patchsets in the Archer repository: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gdb.git;a=blob_plain;f=gdb-archer.patch;hb=f16 Given that this

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:31:55 +0200, John Reiser wrote: Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. [...] Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. This reduces the memory requirements by 128MB:

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: Various projects have been adding AM_SILENT_RULES from Automake to their Makefiles for developer convenience; the goal being that they see warnings more easily. It is inconvenient as one can no longer easily reproduce the compilation for

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: the goal being that they see warnings more easily. You should make -Werror default instead, by compiling packages without -Werror various bugs creep in which would be much easier fixed before the compilation. Regards, Jan -- devel

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:14:27 +0200, Adam Jackson wrote: If you're volunteering to fix and/or paper over all the spurious warnings gcc and glibc introduce with every phase of the moon, then sure. Yes, I do it for my component, GDB has -Werror default in development phases upstream. It cleans

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:16:54 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: Never, ever ship software with -Werror enabled. I agree - for source distribution. Yes, GDB releases have -Werror turned off. It's a development-only option. You have no idea what gcc will decide is a warning in future, so it's

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:39:55 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: Please reread the whole message; this passage only reasons why various UPSTREAMS have chosen to use silent rules. The patch is all about globally enabling the verbose mode, exactly the same you were proposing in the kernel ticket. OK,

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:45:15 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: If a package fails to build in a mass rebuild because -Werror was enabled then that's additional work for several people to fix something that may not have ever actually been broken. 99% of warnings will not lead to user visible bugs.

Re: [OT] Stray Cats were added?

2011-07-17 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:08:20 +0200, Amit Saha wrote: 0 Stray cats were added.. Was wondering what's the background? /usr/share/doc/man-db-*/man-db-manual.* Regards, Jan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: How to remotely download a package from koji?

2011-07-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:22:53 +0200, Richard Shaw wrote: I'm trying to remotely download a package from a koji scratch build but it doesn't work. # curl -L -O http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3192896name=BackupPC-3.2.1-1.fc14.src.rpm Scratch download links should be direct

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:19:23 +0200, Jared K. Smith wrote: We were able to work through all the technical issues with the proposal, and Release Engineering has created Multi-Desktop LiveDVD images for Fedora 15. They even auto-detect whether you're on an i386 or x86_64 platform, but of course

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:16:41 +0200, John Reiser wrote: 1GB USB flash storage often can be scavenged for no monetary cost. 2GB USB flash storage more often costs real money. I got my 2GB flash for free, I do not find this 1GB-2GB difference relevant, the availability also differs according to

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:49:18 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: * It is still a new technology and only got a very limited amount of testing [1]. It was not tested during the release cycle at all but only last minute. Making it default would IMHO be to risky. It is

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:10 +0200, Michael Cronenworth wrote: As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance. With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the VM over bare hardware. This is

Re: illegal instruction - create compile variants ?

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 01 May 2011 22:31:42 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Yes, all the packages which have WORKING support for SSE etc. in Fedora do that. See e.g. https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/master/entry/solid/solid/backends/shared/cpufeatures.cpp

Re: illegal instruction - create compile variants ?

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:24:53 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jan Kratochvil wrote: There is the STT_GNU_IFUNC feature implemented for it - the indirect is handled by linker without an additional indirect overhead if applied for a shared library function. For apps it works in a similar way

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:16:45 +0200, Jeff Garzik wrote: While I don't care about accelerated X support, this hardware darned well better continue working in an it works 2D display mode. VESA or whatever is fine. VESA is not fine, ancient Free drivers are debuggable code when something

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:09:36 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: In any case, it's vital that VESA work given that it's the only way to bring up hardware that's newer than the install image - increasing its test coverage can only be a good thing. It does not make sense to test VESA as we cannot

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-03-28 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:55:35 +0200, Karel Klíč wrote: I have observed GDB displaying wrong source file lines when stepping through a program several times, and I think such a check could discover some issues. Could you provide a reproducer? How it could be fixed by the package maintainer? If

Re: disabling -Werror on a autotools based build

2011-03-27 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:22:48 +0200, gia...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to rebuild a package with an autotools based toolchain and it's failing because they use -Werror and gcc 4.6 spits out few new warnings on the code. You should fix those erors and and submit them upstream. Now, is it

gcc -ffunction-sections -Wl,--gc-sections

2011-03-24 Thread Jan Kratochvil
Hi, just tried -ffunction-sections -Wl,--gc-sections on F15 xulrunner and got libxul.so 24947928 - 23631640 (5.28% gain) and it still works. ld.gold --icf is a different optimization but that one requires gold. Are there some serious Bugs why Fedora is not using it? Thanks, Jan -- devel

Re: gcc -ffunction-sections -Wl,--gc-sections

2011-03-24 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:06:09 +0100, Adam Jackson wrote: For example, if I'm the X server, I have a bunch of symbols exported from the binary that the drivers are expected to call, but that are never called from the server itself. Does marking a function __attribute__((visibility(default)))

Re: yum debuginfo strangeness

2011-03-04 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:07:51 +0100, Neal Becker wrote: got removed, and a useless debuginfo replaced it. The repositories are never in sync, it was tracked by: Debug info RPMs do not require exact maching binary rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=151598 with some

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-24 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:28:10 +0100, Karel Klic wrote: I have written a script which checks the completeness and correctness of the debuginfo packages. Thanks, it would be great to run it automatically like the `Broken deps' checker. Regarding the report below: it is interesting that

Re: rawhide report: 20110219 changes - requires perl(Gtk2::

2011-02-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:57:20 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On a more abstract level one may consider perl's META.yml-machinery to be a package dependency tracking machinery of its own, in parallel to rpm's dependency tracking machinery, with the essentially the same issues, problems and

Re: rawhide report: 20110219 changes - requires perl(Gtk2::

2011-02-21 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:36:05 +0100, Panu Matilainen wrote: A more likely candidate for new dependencies appearing is that rpm now collects dependencies from perl's use base qw syntax, which older versions did not. filed now as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679014

Re: rawhide report: 20110219 changes - requires perl(Gtk2::

2011-02-21 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:22:48 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On a second thought - May-be it would be more suitable for perl to parse the *.pods, such XS-modules normally are accompanied with? As discussed in [Bug 679014] rpmbuild: Perl excessive auto-Requires

RetraceServer security [Re: abrt wishlist]

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:10:49 +0100, David Malcolm wrote: Another gratuitous me too, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/RetraceServer Detailed description: [...] User sends the coredump [...] Do you intend to make it default for Fedora? So far I thought it is not acceptable

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:39:24 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 07:46 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: I have trouble following what you're saying here. At what point does one need to read the whole debuginfo file? I'm referring to this:

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-21 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:32:38 +0100, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 23:09 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: One has to give up on backporting new fixes to ever get any delivered. That's not true. You can continue committing fixes and running builds in Koji; just don't submit another

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:24:46 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: The packages have an automated test suite. I test the code changes as applied the main branch. I test the final update RPMs rebuilt locally my system. Given all this testing, I'm not going to spend time testing the particular

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:42:57 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: I personally can say that the week-long delay significantly diminishes my enjoyment of backporting patches into existing Fedora releases. Being able to spend 30 minutes fixing a bug for an user and getting an immediate feeling of

Re: pulseaudio crashes: non-responsive maintainer Lennart Poettering

2010-11-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:52:51 +0100, Kevin Fenzi wrote: but I think it might be good to get a few motivated maintainers for the fedora package. Also think so. Twinkle sound is choppy when using pulseaudio, the details are not important here as I have not even filed it when the pulseaudio Bugs

Re: pulseaudio crashes: non-responsive maintainer Lennart Poettering

2010-11-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:52:02 +0100, Ray Strode wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Completed Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers there, got an off-list reply but still no fix commit or commit rights approval. Lennart is surely around... I

pulseaudio crashes: non-responsive maintainer Lennart Poettering

2010-11-19 Thread Jan Kratochvil
Hello, filed month+ ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=643296 Simple fix of memory corruption affecting various applications incl. Firefox. Completed Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers there, got an off-list reply but still no fix commit or commit rights

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-16 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:57:19 +0100, Karel Klic wrote: Dne 16.11.2010 11:04, Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): Le Lun 15 novembre 2010 23:51, Karel Klic a écrit : Major advantage of the retrace server is that you can get a good backtraces even from unfresh coredumps. And why can't this be done

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:36:58 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote: I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. If you have physical access to the box there is no security left.

Re: i686/x86_64 dual install media

2010-10-26 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:45:38 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed, but has there every been discussion of a dual 32/64-bit install media? /usr/bin/mkbiarch is included in livecd-tools-034-2.fc14 upwards:

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-27 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:53:09 +0200, seth vidal wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 13:48 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: When will the Fedora project begin recommending x86_64 as the preferred option on the relevant hardware? i686 will run on x86_64 and i686 machines and on the overwhelming

Re: Fedora 14 Beta corrupts user data

2010-09-26 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:58:05 +0200, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:40:22 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: Compiled code for minimum(), maximum(), etc. suffers from a compiler bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757-O1 wrong-code by

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:42:02 +0200, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. I find this

all-versions Koji repository (or a build-id database)

2010-09-08 Thread Jan Kratochvil
Hi, Could Koji provide all the available versions of packages in a repository? Even http://koji.fedoraproject.org/static-repos/ indexes only the latest package versions there. Also f14 is not available there. --

Re: debuginfo for sub packages (Help with RPM SPEC files)

2010-06-17 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:55:05 +0200, Trever L. Adams wrote: Valgrind, gcc, abrt, etc. all seem to not get the symbols (debug info) for the subpackages in my project with the subpackages. It was picking them up in the main packages. Is this normal? gcc does not load debuginfo. abrt partially

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:06:13 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/17/2010 06:49 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: This is a good point, the users shouldn't really have to install debuginfo for a one-off use. It would be better for a central server or service to have access to all the debuginfo files

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:18:11 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/17/2010 05:57 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: 5. Instead of hashes the missing debuginfo packages should be listed with n-v-r, so people can install them manually. This could be a problem. ABRT determines the required

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:19:29 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/18/2010 11:17 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in the Bugzilla bugreport before such build-id - nvr

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