On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:13 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Folks,
In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
snip
2). The new install has no networking because the 432b reversion part is
unsupported
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 19:44 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
[...]
Again, this mail wasn't meant as a criticism. It was intended for Google
to index so that someone else who is hitting their head against a wall
trying to get
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:47 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 01:23:31PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
That's an excellent bug report, but it should be filed at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com rather than de...@lists.fedoraproject.org.
I've filed a bug against gconf (hoping that's
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:27 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 13:03:40 -0400,
Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Folks,
This may have come up already (and I don't mean upstream :) ) but am
interested to know what the plans are in F12 wrt. nouveau updates
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:35 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Then alsamixer will show all of the channel options, which you should
set to 100% volume for now.
alsamixer -c 0
would have done the same thing.
It would
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
There are bugs filed for most of these. As an update, I booted rawhide
on the system to acquire some more data points. Things were largely the
same except suspend/resume
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 14:35 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:30 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
There are bugs filed for most
Folks,
In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
1). Installation proceeds normally. You may want to install rEFIt to
allow dual booting with Mac OS X, in which case Anaconda should oblige
by placing grub on the partition of your /boot partition. You then only
need
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:08 +0300, Debarshi Ray wrote:
7). The webcam isn't working out of the box and nor is bluetooth. There
are instructions online covering these.
Are you talking about isight-firmware-tools [1]? I orphaned it
sometime ago but no one picked it up.
Yea. Upstream doesn't
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:06 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:12:53AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.SHMConfig
type=stringOn/merge
Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:27 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:14:32PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the right thing.
Don't use synclient. Use
Folks,
On the off chance that someone knows the innards of the synaptics driver
beyond the basic tunables exposed in synclient...
I bought a new Macbook Pro over the weekend, which is able to run Fedora
12 (albeit not as smoothly as I would have hoped, it took a lot of
fiddling and the WiFi is
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:55:31AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Within the Fedora desktop environment, clicking and dragging results in
a right mouse button event and no dragging. I turned off the silly (and
in my personal opinion
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 14:04 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:55:31AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Within the Fedora desktop environment, clicking and dragging results in
a right mouse button event
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 16:22 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 14:04 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:55:31AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Within the Fedora desktop environment, clicking
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 14:27 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:24:26 -0700
Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu wrote:
So, autoqa is going to be sending us TPS reports? Excellent. I trust
you saw the memo on this?
Yes, and we are going to need you to come in on saturday...
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 01:34 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
This might be interesting for you - module-init-tools or kernel bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576421
Yea, I saw the bug. I suspect this is actually bad hardware but I need
more information to track it down. Please do
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 06:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 01:34 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
This might be interesting for you - module-init-tools or kernel bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576421
Yea, I saw the bug. I suspect this is actually bad
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:19 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Right now, installing hal will result in hald-addon-storage polling
removable devices from boot - even if nothing's paying attention. This
is a surprisingly large power consumption hit on modern systems. udisks
starts the polling
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:44 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 03/16/2010 01:37 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Dne 16.3.2010 13:04, Jon Masters napsal(a):
I'd just add those gstreamer packages to my exclude config in yum for
the moment, if you don't want to deal with the breakage each time. Then
you
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 14:08 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 06:08:57AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Thanks! I reported elsewhere to some virt. folks that it is also a CPU
hog (in terms of waking up guests every two seconds to poll a virtual CD
device that may almost
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Dne 16.3.2010 09:50, Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
I did notice that. I wasn't sure why a package from rpmfusion would
conflict with one from fedora repos. (It's in rpmfusion for a reason)
Is it being obsoleted by a fedora package (license been
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 21:48 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
Why, do you think, should just a single user change to Fedora, away
from Ubuntu or any other Distro? Because we're blue?
If the only reason to choose Fedora over Ubuntu is because Fedora shoves
out updates at a higher pace into stable
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 18:17 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jon Masters wrote:
If the only reason to choose Fedora over Ubuntu is because Fedora shoves
out updates at a higher pace into stable releases, then something is
severely wrong.
Why? It's exactly what's happening out there in the real
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 20:21 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jon Masters wrote:
If you would confine your concerns to KDE, which it sounds is all you
are really worried about, then let's give KDE a giant exemption for KDE
updates if the rest of the distribution could benefit from less churn
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 19:56 -0600, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Jon Masters wrote:
And prove your point that users are desperate for intrusive
rolling updates and won't just use Rawhide instead if they want to get
the very latest and greatest unbaked stuff.
First off: I'm not asking
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 17:04 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
But (and I mean this with no disrespect to anyone else) I am not
going to want to use it seriously when it means rolling back
everything that changed since installing updates (sure, if the
update is a kernel update and you
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 15:55 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 00:50 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
Fedora can still be (b)leading edge in the technologies it picks up for
its releases. At the same time it can retain stability after the
release has been
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 01:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
Then in my opinion those users, and those maintainers who wish to cater
to those users, can go start their own project.
Even if those users are 70+% of the current Fedora users?
Prove it. And prove your point that
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:26 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
I think a much better solution would be to require similar critical path
policies, across *all* releases, not just pending ones, while still
allowing non-critpath packages to go directly to stable.
That is an acceptable fallback. But just
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 14:01 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 01:48:42PM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:26 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
I think a much better solution would be to require similar critical path
policies, across *all* releases, not just
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without
FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask
*those* users what they think. The impossibility of reaching such a
group of users without
Folks,
I will propose this to FESCo through their normal channels.
My proposal is that we create a Fedora User Survey and create a link
on the fp.o website with a few very simple questions. One of those
questions would be what users think about the current update policy,
using plain (and as
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 21:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
Ok... removing deprecated uses is a questionable at best update, but
here is the kicker. The perl in F11 is perl-5.10.0-82.fc11. So these
functions aren't actually deprecated in F11. So... why
Folks,
I just did a SPARC install (thanks to Dennis for the assistance too) and
elected only for a very minimal install. I then decided to add GNOME
bits just to see what worked for curiosity. I did an yum install
gnome-desktop, thinking this would pull in nautilus, etc.
I don't think this is a
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 02:44 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
I just did a SPARC install (thanks to Dennis for the assistance too) and
elected only for a very minimal install. I then decided to add GNOME
bits just to see what worked for curiosity. I did an yum install
gnome-desktop, thinking
Folks,
It seems most days now something breaks and I want to debug it, but then
have to debuginfo-install. Is there a way to tell yum to always pull in
the corresponding debuginfo packages whenever it installs something?
Jon.
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On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 07:51 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le lundi 22 février 2010 à 19:05 -0800, John Reiser a écrit :
On 02/22/2010 03:07 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
There is much worse - it does not let you set the keyboard layour
anymore, so anyone in a non-qwerty locale will have a
Folks,
What's up with the login screen on rawhide these days? It's defaulting
to no longer listing available users. I can see security sensitive
reasons for this, but it's a behavior change - is it intentional?
Jon.
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On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
don't yet have a clever name for
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 11:09 +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote:
I would like to follow debian and add a tmpfs to /lib/init/rw , which would
serve as a transition from initramfs to real root for files from daemons,
which
need to transition from initramfs, like mdmon, dmeventd, rpc.statd, etc.
FYI,
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