Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> > b'dnf-plugins-core': 117 >> Nice to have, however Minimal installation can live without it. > > Since protected_packages is part of this, I

Re: Reminder: Fedora 21 end of life on 2015-12-01

2015-11-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 21. > > Fedora 21 will reach end of life on 2015-12-01, and no further updates > will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-11-11)

2015-11-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Nov 13, 2015 12:03 AM, "Scott Schmit" wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 01:54:32PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > === > > #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-11-11) > > === > > The meeting summary isn't showing the

Re: FedRTC.org SIP and XMPP service - help needed

2015-11-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> In both the FedRTC and debian case how many calls are made a >> day/month, what is the volume of XMPP etc? In the later case we >>

Re: where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ?

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2015 6:39 AM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 12.11.2015 um 15:34 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2015 11:34 PM, "Petr Pisar" >> > In

Re: where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ?

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2015 7:21 AM, "Josh Boyer" <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: >> > >

Re: where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ?

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2015 8:17 AM, "Josh Boyer" <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: >>

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:58 PM, David Airlie wrote: > >> That's fine. I don't have a problem adding "GNOME on Xorg" option to >> the session >> menu in the interim. I'll do it tomorrow. > > This is what the feature page said would happen in the first place. So > I'm also

Re: [RFC] DistGit Container Image namespacing for Layered Image Build Service

2015-11-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > Hello all, > In the Fedora 24 timeframe the Fedora Release Engineering group is > aiming to deliver the Layered Image Build Service[0] to allow Fedora > contributors to build containers images. In the first

Re: kdbus module being removed from Rawhide

2015-11-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Paul Moore <pmo...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 07:36:13 PM Josh Boyer wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We will be removing the kdbus driver from Rawhide kernels before the >> 4.3 final release upstream. Realistically,

Re: Cloning bugs: Just Don't Do It

2015-11-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > +1000 > > Additionally, I find people clone bugs with the idea that some kind of > similar change/fix needs to be made in a different package. Don't do > that. It's often impossible to tell why the clone was even made or what

Re: Update pushing and bugzilla workflow

2015-11-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:30:41 -0800 > Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> This has been bugging me for a while: what's the best practice, or >> even a good practice, for pushing updates to more than one Fedora >> version

Re: Update pushing and bugzilla workflow

2015-11-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <l...@mit.edu> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Josh Boyer <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:30:41 -0800

kdbus module being removed from Rawhide

2015-10-29 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi All, We will be removing the kdbus driver from Rawhide kernels before the 4.3 final release upstream. Realistically, this means kdbus will be gone from Fedora by Monday November 2nd at the latest. If you have a setup using kdbus, please adjust it accordingly. The upstream developers asked

Re: display state of package generation on KOJI

2015-10-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi developers, > > sometimes I'm searching for new packages on KOJI, for example for new > kernels, but I see only a "Finished" column (beside others) on the specific > website. It would be helpful if the

Re: Any update on the status of ZFS?

2015-10-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Zach Villers wrote: > It's been a few months since I've seen any mention of this. > > Has there been any change in the legal status of bring ZFS to official > fedora repos? No. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Current Rawhide problems you might want to know about

2015-10-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Ben Boeckel <maths...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct, 2015 at 12:53:43 GMT, Josh Boyer wrote: >> The kernel module is included in the rawhide (and only rawhide) >> kernels > > Would it be possible to enable it for the kernels from

Re: Current Rawhide problems you might want to know about

2015-10-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:10:54AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > Is kdbus enabled? >> How do I tell? Anyway I didn't take any explicit step to enable it. >> The machine has just been 'dnf update'-d to

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new Point of Contact

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Boyer
2015-09-30 15:40 GMT-04:00 Kevin Fenzi : > In today's FESCo meeting we marked 2 maintainers as no longer > responsive and I have just orphaned the packages that they were point > of contact on. > > Please take a look at this list and if you wish to become the point of > contact

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2: 151M > Fedora-Cloud-Base-23_Beta-20150915.x86_64.qcow2: 275M > > In just one year — 82% more awesome? > > I'd really like this to stay below 200MB as a

Re: DNF: no helpful information in case of dependency problems

2015-09-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > YUM did show dependency problems down to the "library.so.version", DNF just > says "skip" even with the -v flag > > "-v" is showing another bug, there is no need to mention "deltainfo" when > "deltarpm=0" is

Re: Fedora Ring 0 definition

2015-09-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Brendan Conoboy <b...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 09/15/2015 07:51 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Matthew Miller >> <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep

Re: Fedora Ring 0 definition

2015-09-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 02:19:38PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: >> Let's say ring 0 isn't self hosting, but ring 0 + 1 ring is. Can we >> offer a longer term of support for ring 0 than ring 1? What happens >>

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 14 September 2015 at 10:43, Josh Boyer <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Adam Williamson >> <adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >>>

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 10:13 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> We also haven't established any kind of migration plan between the >> two >> repositories. In the darktable example, one of the reasons we ended

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 11:51 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> To allow or not allow bundling is the small side point here - the >> questions >> should be more of "Are we a distribution of packages? Are we an OS?

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 11.09.2015 um 15:27 schrieb Zdenek Kabelac: >> >> Dne 11.9.2015 v 15:22 Eric Griffith napsal(a): >>> >>> >>> On Sep 11, 2015 9:03 AM, "Zdenek Kabelac" >> > wrote:

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: > On 09/10/2015 04:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> >> wrote: > > >> Is the intention of your proposal t

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I assume that subject line got your attention. > > I know this is a long-standing debate and that this thread is likely > to turn into an incomprehensible flamewar filled with the same tired > arguments, but I'm

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-09)

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Boyer
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-09-09 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-09)

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Boyer
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-09-09) === Meeting started by jwb at 18:00:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-09/fesco.2015-09-09-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-02)

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Boyer
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-09-02) === Meeting started by jwb at 18:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-02/fesco.2015-09-02-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Fedora Ring 0 definition

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > Re-sending this with a better title so people might read it ;-) I read it last week. Perhaps the lack of commentary isn't because of the title. It's because there is nothing new here. The proposal boils down to

Re: Fedora Ring 0 definition

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Matthias Clasen <mcla...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 15:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> (Also, the original definition included Anaconda because you need >> something to actually install Fedora Ring 0 with and that brought

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-02)

2015-09-01 Thread Josh Boyer
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-09-02 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-02)

2015-09-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Josh Boyer <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > = Followups = > > #topic #1472 Investigate mysterious enabled systemd presets > .fesco 1472 > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1472 We'll skip this one. josh -- devel mailing list devel@li

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote: On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Out of all of those

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote: On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any = real value would be renaming kernel to linux, but only if we were interested in introducing other FOSS

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 17.8.2015 v 14:47 Josh Boyer napsal(a): I would recommend removing all of the above people from the sponsors group. -1 There is nothing wrong on being inactive. At least as long as others are active. If they would

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: This is current output from my script with updates based on your comments: Axel Thimm athimm - no recent sponsor activity Had his packages orphaned a while ago due to non-responsive maintainer. Christopher Aillon

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Aug 16, 2015 12:50 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 16.08.2015 um 18:14 schrieb Roberto Ragusa: On 08/16/2015 10:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: no the architecture was created by Intel AMD added the 64bit capabilities in a compatible way other than Intel itself tried

Re: systemd bugs again and again

2015-08-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Aug 16, 2015 1:01 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Lennart is a dick. Everyone who has to work with sytemd has seen this. Personal attacks are not acceptable on this list. Don't do it again. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Christopher Meng i...@cicku.me wrote: On 8/16/15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair, Debian's use of linux over kernel is because they actually support another kernel (the FreeBSD kernel). If the Fedora Project wanted to add FreeBSD kernel support

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:33 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao blue...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi, Is there already any discussion about: rename arch name noarch to all rename arch name x86_64 to amd64 rename package name kernel-PAE to kernel

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to dnf/libsolv

Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-04 Thread Josh Boyer
Hello, Over the past week, we've been dealing with a kernel bug[1] that prevents i686 machines from booting. Help was requested and given, and it has been excellent and most welcome. This email has no reflection on that, and is instead focused on the reality of where i686 stands today. In

Re: [RFC] RPM VCS tag. Building from VCS tag/branch/commit

2015-08-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Igor Gnatenko ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi folks, Since 2010 we have defined VCS tag in RPM, but we're not using it actually. No guidelines for it, nothing other. Just tag. Introduction Currently we are using Source0

Re: Grub2 older in f24 than in f23

2015-08-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 01:26:17PM +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Hi, Peter did bump to 0.18 in f23 to fix building on aarch64, but haven't did the same for rawhide. Therefore we have older version in rawhide

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test kdbus in Rawhide!

2015-07-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: On 07/30/2015 11:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I'd like to ask everybody to test kdbus on Rawhide. Josh thankfully added it to the Rawhide kernel packages, and our systemd RPMs come with built-in support,

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test kdbus in Rawhide!

2015-07-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2015-07-30 at 19:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I'd like to ask everybody to test kdbus on Rawhide. Josh thankfully added it to the Rawhide kernel packages, and our systemd RPMs come with

Re: Help needed: F23 32-bit kernel issue

2015-07-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Alexander Ploumistos alex.ploumis...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: First, it would be good to isolate it to the first kernel that doesn't work. That narrows down the range of commits to look

Re: Help needed: F23 32-bit kernel issue

2015-07-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:36:07AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Secondly, it would be excellent if someone could commit to spinning test ISOs when requested. Turn around time on bugs like this are quite lengthy given

Help needed: F23 32-bit kernel issue

2015-07-29 Thread Josh Boyer
Hello, There is a report of an issue with the boot.iso and DVD isos not booting on 32-bit machines/VMs because of a kernel issue [1]. As far as is known, the issue doesn't happen on 64-bit. It may happen on 32-bit ARM but that is not confirmed as the ARM issue manifests differently. The bug

Re: kernel builds in rawhide

2015-07-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Tomas Tomecek ttome...@redhat.com wrote: I can see that RCs of development version of kernel are being built in rawhide. Which is really great to test new stuff. But I would be pretty scared to run RC kernel normally. We test the kernels before we put them

Re: kernel builds in rawhide

2015-07-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Tomas Tomecek ttome...@redhat.com wrote: Quoting Peter Robinson (2015-07-27 11:15:58) On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Tomas Tomecek ttome...@redhat.com wrote: I can see that RCs of development version of kernel are being built in rawhide. Which is really

Re: Fedora developer portal - proof of concept

2015-07-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Petr Hracek phra...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Fedora devels and other folks, Adam Samalik and me we create a first proof of concept Fedora Developer Portal. Testing instance is already available here [1]. Fedora Developer Portal is a new place for developers and

Re: Fedora developer portal - proof of concept

2015-07-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Máirín Duffy du...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/21/2015 09:51 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: I'm curious how this is going to be tied into the Fedora Hubs work? If it isn't, I'm curious why not :) So Fedora Hubs' main audiences are folks who are contributing to Fedora

Re: Fedora developer portal - proof of concept

2015-07-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Wakely jwak...@redhat.com wrote: On 21/07/15 15:45 +0200, Petr Hracek wrote: Feel free to send us any comment or improvements. We would like to improve Fedora for developers.

Re: Hosting End-Of-Life Fedora Base images?

2015-07-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Miller maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hello all, There was an issue ticket filed against the Fedora Docker Base Images[0] github repo requesting that older End-Of-Life'd (EOL'd) Fedora releases be made available as docker images[1] and I'm not

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of weak

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:05:24AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are included on the install media (and therefore also installed together

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2015-07-09 16:49 GMT+02:00 Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com: On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 04:41:00PM +0200, Haďkel wrote: From my PoV, the abbreviation system is already an improvement, if it's commonly shared with other

Re: [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi, I would like to get feedback from Fedora Legal and also my fellow contributors about considering SPDX. SPDX (Software Package Data Exchange) is a specification hosted by the Linux Foundation defining a standard

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2015-07-09 14:08 GMT+02:00 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org: Can you elaborate on how you envision this working? SPDX appears to work best when upstream projects integrate it and maintain it themselves. Doing

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:14:36PM +0200, Haïkel wrote: 2015-07-09 14:24 GMT+02:00 Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com: What distros or upstream projects are actually using the SPDX format? I am not aware of any.

Re: Removing vm86 support?

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: Hi- I'm asking here because Fedora seems to one of few distros that enables CONFIG_VM86 on 32-bit kernels. I'm somewhat confused as to how that is to be honest. We don't explicitly set it in our config hunks, and we

Re: Attn rawhide users: 4.2.0-0.rc0.git1.1.fc23.x86_64 causes problems

2015-06-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: With host kernel 4.2.0-0.rc0.git1.1.fc23.x86_64: - KVM is broken (RHBZ#1236753) - gnome-shell segfaults all the time (RHBZ#1237060) Reverting back to 4.1.0-1.fc23 fixes both problems. Please try

Re: FESCO Elections - June 2015 - Results

2015-06-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Alexander Ploumistos alex.ploumis...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Another possibility is that people didn't find any candidate to their taste. I suggest adding a None option too. Though it won't

Re: FESCO Elections - June 2015 - Results

2015-06-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Jan Kurik jku...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, all! The elections for FESCo - June 2015 have concluded, and the results are shown below. FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 90 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 540

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2015 at 18:40, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: That is precisely why I'm asking on this list. I don't know who those people are, and this is really the best place I know of to start contact and those

Re: need rpm help (nothing provides /bin/python)

2015-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 23.06.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Michael Šimáček: DNF cannot resolve provides that look like file path: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223478 Priority Low - seriously? It is probably worth pointing

Re: need rpm help (nothing provides /bin/python)

2015-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 23.06.2015 um 16:42 schrieb Josh Boyer: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 23.06.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Michael Šimáček: DNF cannot resolve provides that look

Re: F23 Self Contained Change: Standardized Passphrase Policy

2015-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jan Kurik jku...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Standardized Passphrase Policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Standardized_passphrase_policy Um... how is this Self Contained? If we're creating a standardized distro wide policy,

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in Fedora 23. At this point, I'm personally convinced that it is certainly ready

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda sla...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda sla...@redhat.com wrote: It is written in a scope what does 'default' stands for. Also from a additional porting POV (packages which ain't

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda sla...@redhat.com wrote: It is written in a scope what does 'default' stands for. Also from a additional porting POV (packages which ain't covered by scope and are python2 only) it is important to have stated that the default python for Fedora

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Robert Kuska rku...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:11:36 PM Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default Greetings. In

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: What

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact kernel that is running at the time yum/dnf is installing a program that

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book: That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There are plenty of people who use

Re: git perl-less build?

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Petr Stodulka pstod...@redhat.com wrote: On 3.6.2015 13:56, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 07:19:10AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015, at 05:23 AM, Petr Stodulka wrote: Hi folks, I have this request on bugzilla [0] for

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 1st June 2015 14:15 UTC on #fedora-meeting-2

2015-06-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Václav Pavlín vpav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi guys, I am sorry I missed the meeting yesterday - I had a training I completely forgot about, but anyway, my comments to the topic(s) follow: Gathering of an information for the modularization proposal should surely

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:40 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: On 28/05/15 17:45, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've started poking into packaging the mhvtl project for Fedora and EPEL. This package also

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: On Sex, 2015-05-29 at 08:54 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:40 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: On 28/05/15 17:45, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, David Sommerseth dav

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: On Sex, 2015-05-29 at 09:28 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: On Sex, 2015-05-29 at 08:54 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:40 AM, David

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-28 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 14:39 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Do you think the tech could stabilize enough to obviate the first reason? The 6-month workflow cadence remains a good idea, of course, but could result in

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-28 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 28.05.2015 um 21:58 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 14:39 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Do you think the tech could stabilize enough to obviate the first reason? The 6-month workflow cadence

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-28 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've started poking into packaging the mhvtl project for Fedora and EPEL. This package also contains a kernel module, which normally works fine - until you hit Secure Boot. So I was wondering how to handle

Re: Reminder: Fedora 20 end of life on 2015-06-23

2015-05-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:55:04AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Fedora 20 will reach end of life on 2015-06-23, and no further updates will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent release of

Re: Fedora 22 Repositories contain Fedora 21 Packages?

2015-05-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Sumit Bhardwaj sumitkbhard...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have a fresh installation of Fedora 22 RC1 with all the extra stuff I needed installed. Today I was going through the list of packages installed on my system and was a little bit surprised to find some

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/19/2015 03:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 05/19/2015 04:12 AM, drago01 wrote: Why does it take so long? Most firefox uipdates get enough karma before they end up in testing. In that case they should be

[Base] Fedora Engineering update

2015-05-18 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi Base WG, As part of the on-going Council updates, I'm organizing a Fedora Engineering update. This includes the various WGs, rel-eng, infrastructure, and a few others. The idea behind this is to give a brief update of the work your group is doing towards the F23 and F24 releases. Think of

Re: Is it too late in the F22 cycle to upgrade cross-gcc to gcc-5?

2015-04-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:59 AM, David Howells dhowe...@redhat.com wrote: It's taken quite a long time to sort out the bugs in gcc-5 with regard to lesser-used arches, so I've only just managed to get cross-gcc in rawhide upgraded to gcc-5, despite the main gcc package having got there a while

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-04-22)

2015-04-22 Thread Josh Boyer
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-04-22 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets

Meetting Minutes for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-04-22)

2015-04-22 Thread Josh Boyer
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-04-22) === Meeting started by jwb at 18:00:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-04-22/fesco.2015-04-22-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Your Outstanding Requests on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:17 -0400, Neil Horman wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:27:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 09:55 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael

Re: glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: On 18/03/15 11:55, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that instlangs hasn't worked

Re: glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that instlangs hasn't worked in the installer. This means that in a minimal image of about 400MB, 100MB is translation information. (Of course we want

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