On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
>
> Le Lun 4 novembre 2013 23:02, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
>
>> The problem is not to get code in the hands of developers. You don't need
>> distros for that. The problem is to get the code to end-users and
>> developers spend more time fight
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Łukasz Trąbiński wrote:
> Hi
>
> Where i can find old kernels from fc19 updates?
>
> Last 5-6 kernels are totally unstable and unusable.
> For example, when i boot machines with many ethernet devices I got random
> number ethX. Once eth0 is eth0, after reboot eth0
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
> wrote:
>>
>> Le Lun 4 novembre 2013 20:15, Josh Boyer a écrit :
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher
>>> wrote:
>>>>> And, b
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
>
> Le Lun 4 novembre 2013 20:15, Josh Boyer a écrit :
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher
>> wrote:
>>>> And, by the way, we've been supporting this kind of model with pip
>>>>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mattias Ellert
wrote:
> mån 2013-11-04 klockan 14:58 -0500 skrev Josh Boyer:
>
>> For a large number of upstream projects, they don't care at all about
>> being in a distro. They just focus on their project and someone else
>>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.11.2013 20:43, schrieb Josh Boyer:
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> and why do different distributions exist?
>>> guess what: because they have different goals and use
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.11.2013 20:26, schrieb drago01:
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> drago01 wrote:
You'd be trying to use the lowest common denominator which means you have
to wait years until all distros you care a
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 04.11.2013 19:33, schrieb Alberto Ruiz:
>> It is outrageous that it's 2013 and I still have to upgrade my whole
>> system just to get the latest LibreOffice version to name an example.
>
> no it is the reason why who have tousands of pack
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> And, by the way, we've been supporting this kind of model with pip
>> and gem already, so I really don't get why all the fuss when
>> suddenly we want to do it with the desktop applications.
>>
>
> Please don't use pip and gem as "positiv
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Might be a good idea to show that info in bodhi.
>
> Something like:
>
> bodhi: This update has been submitted for stable by churchyard.
> bodhi: There is an ongoing freeze, this will be pushed to stable after the
> freeze is over.
That's not
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
>
> Le Lun 4 novembre 2013 12:26, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
>
>> You can probably re-enact that famous scene from the Wickerman building
>> this
>> many strawmen.
>
> Thank you for demonstrating the complete lack of respect you have for
> anyon
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The
> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and
> principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Markus Mayer wrote:
> On 11/01/2013 03:24 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The
>> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and
>> principles, but I
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
wrote:
> On 01.11.2013 15:24, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The
>> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and
>> principles, but
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Ray Strode wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> The other positions will be filled by general election
>> every two years. As a special exception, four seats will be filled in
>> one year, with those
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> Giving the FESCO rep a two year term seems to be a potential problem as they
> wouldn't be guaranteed to be in FESCO for two years and most of the time
> you'd probably want the rep to be a member of FESCO. Maybe the FESCO rep
> should just
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:01:52AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>> The Fedora Workstation Work Group has nine voting members, with one
>> member selected by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee as the
>> liai
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>> On 10/28/2013 03:36 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2013 01:20 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>>>>
>>&
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Hello everyone. Our initial Cloud WG meeting today is today at 19:00 UTC
> (3pm EDT). We'll use #fedora-meeting-1 (because the FESCo meeting in
> #fedora-meeting has been running more than an hour). All are welcome.
>
> == Communications ==
FESCo current does their membership to a large degree.
If we want something else, please follow up with alternative
suggestions.
=== Current Members ===
* Josh Boyer (FESCo Liaison)
* Matthias Clasen
* Kalev Lember
* Ryan Lerch
* Jens Petersen
* Christian Schaller
* Owen Taylor
* Lukáš Tinkl
* Chri
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> On 10/29/2013 04:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Phil Knirsch
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/29/2013 03:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>&g
Unfortunately some people won't be able to
>>> make that time and day, so Josh Boyer then proposed to use
>>> whenisgood.net to make sure we get the best possible time for that.
>>
>>
>> Is whenisgood poll alreay there or not? I'm not sure I'll be able to
==
#fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG
==
Meeting started by jwb at 14:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-29/fedora-workstation.2013-10-29-14.00.log.html
.
My apologies for the last minute agenda. We'll be holding our initial
WG meeting today at 14:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. We'll
cover the various items below. I will try and keep the meeting under
1 hour.
== Logistics ==
- mailing list(s)
- IRC channel(s)
- Meeting frequency and time
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:43:24PM +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>>> See my comments about Jon Disnard later in my text, i assumed he was
>>> still a community member only to hear ab
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> On 10/28/2013 03:36 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2013 01:20 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> As FESCO appointed me last Wednesday as the coordinator for the Fedora
>>> Base Design WG i wanted to sta
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
>
> On 10/27/2013 09:45 AM, Alexandre Moine wrote:
>
>
> Recently, some Working Groups has been created [1]. In the most of
> case (except in the Server WG with Truong Anh. Tuan), we don't have
> any representant of the ambassador gro
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 19:56 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>> It is up to each WG to determine their product requirements. That
>> includes which architectures and target users they are trying to
>> produce a product f
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 07:49 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> > We just started to support ARM, I don't think we want to drop it.
>> > I guess those three products are currently most important and
>> > other products like Embedded should g
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
>> I agree there remains some work on prelink itself and some packages around
>> to
>> make prelink relevant again
>
>
> I don't mean to pick a fight with you Jan, but you are the only person
> active
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jan Kratochvil
wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:50:44 +0200, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> Many tools need to juggle the fact these binaries have been changed, and
>> make checkers more complex and prone to faults.
>
> So let's build the whole system with -O0 and we can thr
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> On 10/15/13 at 05:30am, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
>> > During the development of "unSPEC" [1] benchmarking suite, I made some
>> > inter
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> Hi,
>
> During the development of "unSPEC" [1] benchmarking suite, I made some
> interesting observations regarding prelink.
>
> - Here are some measurements (for LibreOffice [2] loading time in
> seconds) done using the "unSPEC" benchmarkin
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> I'm trying to track down a btrfs regression and need to revert a ~10 month
> old patch using 3.12.0-rc4 as the basis.
>
> This http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel has ApplyPatch
> examples in the spec file, which works fine.
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mihamina RKTMB wrote:
> On 10/04/2013 02:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>What about Fedora Embedded? Do you plan to drop ARM support on
>>Fedora? I can't match small credit card size devices with either
>>Workstation, Server or Cloud group. Is
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Hi all,
>
> As the procedure recently changed a little and many people have gotten
> it wrong for a long time I wanted to bring to everyones attention the
> proper procedure to retire a pa
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> (That said, our minimal image is a couple of 100mb still, iirc, so 2mb
>> is not tht much.)
>
> It's basically down to the three big unsolved problems (kernel modules
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Igor Gnatenko
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 07:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>>> On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 07:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>> >> Just to follow up, thanks, your i
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>>>
>>> That shouldn't really be an issue for the most part. It would only
>>> impact you if you're hitting issues in an area where the config
>
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
>>>
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> It will be dedicated in the release announcement. Perhaps someone
>> might add something to the download page on the website as well.
>>
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> I personally LOVE release names. However, I feel that we should
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me,
>> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20".
>>
>> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Mill
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
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> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:37:44 -0400
> Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:09:03PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> > > Without spinnin
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 06:47:31PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>> I need to update the documentation. But we need to get to the point
>> where the releng side is transparent and just happens. The crazy
>> schedules we have had since f18 hav
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 08/20/2013 09:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>> The end solution to this is to actually build all packages on all
>> arches and not have the secondary arches suck down completed builds
>> from primary koji. I realize
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dan Horák wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:20:12 -0500
> Andrew McNabb wrote:
>
>> I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is
>> trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some
>> reason, one of the tests is failing. I've
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Peter Robinson
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Till Maas wrote:
>>>
petitboot dwmw2,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git
> bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora
> kernel packages? I found a koji bisect thing, but the last known good
> kernel is prior to the fedora r
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:41:37 -0700
>> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>>
>>> Additional agenda item:
>>>
>>> Mattdm, sgallagh, and I were talki
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:41:37 -0700
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>
>> Additional agenda item:
>>
>> Mattdm, sgallagh, and I were talking about the general fesco sentiment
>> towards mattdm's fedora future direction proposal and the multiple
>> fed
On Aug 4, 2013 5:20 PM, "Kevin Fenzi" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:16:01 +0100
> "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote:
>
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991808
> >
> > Don't install kernel-3.11.0-0.rc3.git4.1.fc20. The
> > /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-0.rc3.git4.1.fc20.x86_64 file is 0 byt
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Brendan Long wrote:
> Is there a wiki page on supporting new boards? I have a BeagleBone Black
> that I'd prefer to use Fedora on, but the instructions on the wiki all
> seem to be about how to install pre-made images, not how to create new
> images. Is there instr
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 05:09:54PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On 25 July 2013 16:59, Billy Crook wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> >> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-lis
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> Other for the fact that this would allow everyone to contribute to
>> the project not just Red Hat which in turn would make us less
>> depended on it ( or they spending money on us from their point of
>> view ).
>>
>
> My understanding i
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> On 07/23/2013 07:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:23:20PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>>>
>>> #topic #1136 F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture -
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/A
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: SSD cache =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache
>
> Change owner(s): Rolf Fokkens
>
> Using recent kernel (3.9 and later) features for (fast) SSD caching of (slow)
> ordinary hard disks.
>
> ==
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21:30AM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> On 07/11/2013 08:46 AM, Till Maas wrote:
>> >On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 07:48:50AM -0400, Jonathan Masters wrote:
>> >>And following the legitimate concerns about stack-protecto
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>>> On 07/10/2013 09:13 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fedora is an operati
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> The all or nothing element in the above simply serves to discourage further
>> contribution and is harming Fedora's growth. The relentless "I don't wa
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>
> Speaking about hardware - and that's more a question for Spot - could
> be possible to organize another round of HW give away as we did with
> Raspberries? With a different HW, that's supported in Fedora and it
> seems like there are pret
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 07/10/2013 09:13 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>
>> Fedora is an operating system that supports a range of desktop
>> environments, defaulting to the GNOME desktop environment. An OS that
>> supports headless servers but not desktop enviro
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:36:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas wrote:
>
>> > Which hardware is supported by ARMv7 hfp 32bit builds? Will there be
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/A
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
>> > I've had an entry on my todo list _forever_ to complete the
>> > 'deliverables SOP' I started several releases ago:
>> >
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Us
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> When reading media articles about SB, bear in mind they're usually wildly
> inaccurate. For the straight dope, apply to mjg59, pjones, or if neither of
> them is available, me (but remember I'm just the monkey).
You can ask me as well. I w
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> nnnOn Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = Proposed System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ARM_as_Primary
>
> How many F19 packages currently fail to build (or are exc
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> Sorry for the lateness of this email. FESCo meeting *IS* scheduled for
> today.
>
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> It looks like the venerable calls to new-kernel-pkg (from grubby) have been
> replaced by kernel-install, which checks if /sbin/new-kernel-pkg exists and
> runs that if it does, and otherwise does this stuff
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On 06/28/2013 01:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 13:19 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Adam Williamso
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> There is another 'workaround' you haven't considered: we can simply
> build an updates.img that fixes the issue (or works around it, by
> ditching the commit from 19.13.10 that apparently broke this case), and
> link to that from the common
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 28.06.2013 17:42, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:09:43 +0200
>> Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> which does not explain why 3.9.6 and 3.9.7 was not in updates-testing
>>> and 3.9.7 got there today, a week after it was built a
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 26.06.2013 21:10, schrieb Bill Nottingham:
>> * #1128switching from "-fstack-protector" to
>> "-fstack-protector-strong" in Fedora 20 (notting, 18:10:54)
>> * AGREED: Will switch from "-fstack-protector" to
>> "-fstack-prote
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 22:17:12 -0400,
> Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>>
>> We had said that the new FESCo should attend if possible. I'm still
>> hoping the election results are announced in time, but we sh
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
>
> convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>
>
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
I'll be missing tomorrow's meeting. I'll log any comments I may have
in the tickets.
josh
--
devel
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> Dne 3.6.2013 19:04, Dan Mashal napsal(a):
>>
>>> What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change?
>>
>>
>> That is good question. I was always against distinguishing
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> 2013/5/21 Przemek Klosowski
>>
>> On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>>>
>>> I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what
>>> does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by
>>>
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 21.05.13 14:08, Simone Caronni (negativ...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> thanks for the tip.
>>
>> On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> > It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a
>> > Con
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 05/16/2013 03:09 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think that JBG built on my proposal. I am personally ambivalent to
>> disabling FPC. I can imagine that some process as "proposed" by JBG would
>> work, but I am afraid it
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 05/16/2013 11:16 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>>
>>> Dne 14.5.2013 20:46, Josh Boyer napsal(a):
>>>>>
>>>
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 14.5.2013 20:46, Josh Boyer napsal(a):
>>>
>>> Heck the community did not have the faintest idea which tickets they even
>>> worked ( or did any work at all ) on until I literally request they
>>> ad
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
>> On 05/14/2013 05:45 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 17:13:54 +
>>> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> The unresponsive maintainers policy is to be honest crap and to much
>>> in favor of the maintainer.
>>>
>>>
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-05-08)
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Meeting started by jwb at 18:06:59 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-08/fesco.2013-05-08-18.06.log.html
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Meeting summary
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Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC (2:00pm EST, 20:00 CEST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
= Followups =
#topic #1110 systemd preset for ipmi
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Heya,
>
> In Fedora 20, we'll be using BlueZ 5.x to manage Bluetooth devices.
So your Subject says this is a Feature, yet there's no link to a
Feature page. I can't find one in the wiki either, and I know this
hasn't gone through FESCo.
Ca
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Qui, 2013-05-02 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> > On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> > > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 04:21:02PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Adam Goode wrote:
>> Is the Raspberry Pi firmware now ok to be packaged in Fedora proper?
>
>Yes
>
>> It looks like the Fedora guidelines for firmware can now include RPi stuff.
>
>They now include AR
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 11:08:03AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> > We're going to produce official Fedora Cloud images which should run on
>> > Amazon EC2, and various open source cloud infrastructure -- OpenStack,
&
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> We're going to produce official Fedora Cloud images which should run on
> Amazon EC2, and various open source cloud infrastructure -- OpenStack,
> Eucalyptus, CloudStack, OpenNebula; with both KVM and Xen -- and probably
> also under VMware a
Hi All,
I've orphaned the meanwhile package. I no longer have a need nor the
access to deal with Lotus Sametime and the upstream is pretty stagnant.
The only bug I'm aware of is the new one opened to add AArch64 support,
which is something you could do but I have no idea why anyone would
want to
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> How do I add karma to someone's build?
You go to the update they filed in bodhi and add it there.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/
If they haven't filed an update, then you can't give karam.
josh
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Richard Marko wrote:
> On 03/21/2013 02:50 PM, Richard Marko wrote:
>
> In last two weeks these components were crashing the most:
>
> 1. kernel seen 45496 times (36% of all reports)
> http://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/586553/
> http://retrace.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Peter Jones wrote:
> While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release
> or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have
> problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite
> often.
>
> This uses /Punctua
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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> On 03/15/2013 09:04 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>&g
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Josh Boyer said:
>>> My patch put it in /usr/lib/sysctl.d, just coming from systemd itself.
>>> We could possibly throw that file into ini
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Josh Boyer said:
>> My patch put it in /usr/lib/sysctl.d, just coming from systemd itself.
>> We could possibly throw that file into initscripts if systemd doesn't
>> want to make that change (th
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14.03.13 18:32, Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>>> > Everything about these restrictions is described in detail in the commit:
&g
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
>> Hmm, I'd very much prefer if the defaults are built into the kernel, and
>> that sysctl in userspace is then used only by the admin to override these
>> defaults, so that by default we ship with em
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Thu, 14.03.13 18:32, Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> > Everything about these restrictions is described in detail in the commit:
>> > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torva
detail in the commit:
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=800179c9b8a1e796e441674776d11cd4c05d61d7
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions.
Something like this patch to systemd should work, no?
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