Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2022-01-06 Thread Petr Pisar
V Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:39:11AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > You can configure koji to do a slightly different depsolving using dnf > versus the koji algorithms, which fix things in that only default > modules may get enabled in mock. [However may is a strong word.. it > sometimes doe

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 10:16, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > Sure, I saw that ticket. But I fail to see how this is this a "new problem". > > If you use, for example, some shiny, new features that are only going > > to be in GCC 12 or

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-20 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Sure, I saw that ticket. But I fail to see how this is this a "new problem". > If you use, for example, some shiny, new features that are only going > to be in GCC 12 or LLVM 14, There's a *big* difference between Go and C/C++/Rust t

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 11:06:45PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Basically, it seems like we're moving too slowly to keep up with changes in > > Kubernetes, with trickle-down consequences. > > Sure, I saw that ticket. But I fail to see how this is this a "new problem". > If you use, for exampl

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 3:35 AM Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:01 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: >> > A hypothetical new release cycle would look like this: >> > >> >- Fedora N releas

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 11:01 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:34:34PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Honestly, I do not see the problem with how things currently work. > > Isn't it normal that "the new hotness" is first baked to perfection in > > rawhide, until it is the

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:34:34PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Honestly, I do not see the problem with how things currently work. > Isn't it normal that "the new hotness" is first baked to perfection in > rawhide, until it is then released with the next stable Fedora > release? Well, going bac

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:25 PM Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > > I've been thinking a little about how Go is updated in Fedora. I would like > to hear other opinions about the current state of the releases and improve it. (snip) Sorry for not seeing this email earlier. I hav

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 07:50:34PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Just a note here: Even with default modular streams, non-modular > packages would still only be able to be built with one modular > stream -- the default one. So this isn't a consequence (not even > partly) of us deciding not to have d

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 18. 12. 21 19:04, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 09:11:08AM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: But AFAIK, only users can select a module stream, right? I mean, packages can't be build on top of a module stream so new needs of package maintainers cannot be satisfy with module

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 18. 12. 21 9:11, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:01 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > A hypothetical new release cycle would look like this: > > 

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 09:11:08AM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > But AFAIK, only users can select a module stream, right? I mean, packages > can't be build on top of a module stream > so new needs of package maintainers cannot be satisfy with modules. Packages _can_ build on top of a mod

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Alejandro Saez Morollon
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:01 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > > A hypothetical new release cycle would look like this: > > > >- Fedora N release follows Go upstream as close as we can. > >- Fedora N-1 sticks with the lat

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > A hypothetical new release cycle would look like this: > >- Fedora N release follows Go upstream as close as we can. >- Fedora N-1 sticks with the latest major version of Go that was >available on it until the r

About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-13 Thread Alejandro Saez Morollon
I've been thinking a little about how Go is updated in Fedora. I would like to hear other opinions about the current state of the releases and improve it. This is not related to the Fedora proposal that I'm planning to submit today regarding the update of Go. I do not pretend to chang