Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Till Hofmann
On 9/22/19 4:08 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 22. 09. 19 16:01, Till Hofmann wrote: So the guidelines allow package retirement without any announcement on devel. That's certainly unexpected, at least to me. I also don't think this is a good idea, because maintainers of packages that depend on

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 22. 09. 19 16:01, Till Hofmann wrote: So the guidelines allow package retirement without any announcement on devel. That's certainly unexpected, at least to me. I also don't think this is a good idea, because maintainers of packages that depend on the retired package are still clueless

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Till Hofmann
On 9/22/19 3:40 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 22. 09. 19 14:37, Till Hofmann wrote: Hi all, So I've just been notified that tolua++ has been retired, which is a dependency of one of my packages (fawkes). BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1736911 I've closed this bug because it

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 22. 09. 19 15:40, Miro Hrončok wrote: "7. A week before the mass branching, any packages which still have open FTBFS bugs from the previous release will be retired." Whether this is a reasonable thing or not has been discussed in:

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 22. 09. 19 14:37, Till Hofmann wrote: Hi all, So I've just been notified that tolua++ has been retired, which is a dependency of one of my packages (fawkes). BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1736911 I've closed this bug because it "was already retired", not because of that

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Till Hofmann
On 9/22/19 3:01 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: But I do have something to say about the specific example used. tolua++ being retired is not a problem for fawkes, as fawkes depends on compat-tolua++, which is maintained by me and has NOT been retired. Thanks for pointing this out! I assumed

Re: Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 22-09-2019 14:37, Till Hofmann wrote: Hi all, So I've just been notified that tolua++ has been retired, which is a dependency of one of my packages (fawkes). BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1736911 This would have been fine (as no action has been taken), if the

Automation ignores FTBFS guidelines

2019-09-22 Thread Till Hofmann
Hi all, So I've just been notified that tolua++ has been retired, which is a dependency of one of my packages (fawkes). BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1736911 This would have been fine (as no action has been taken), if the automation had actually followed the FTBFS