Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > [...] > As I said, there are no great solutions here. A "works most of the time"-solution would be: Install kernel-devel by default. But I'm not seriously suggesting that, because I fully agree: It's not

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Thorsten Leemhuis" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:19:10 PM > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? > (Was: Soft- Re: DKM

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
:19:10 PM > > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel > packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing > > the right kernel-devel package) > > > > Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55: > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gomp

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Radek Holy
nt discussions related to Fedora" < > > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:19:10 PM > > > > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel > > > packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not in

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Kalev Lember
On 06/12/2015 02:40 PM, Radek Holy wrote: AFAIK, it is discussed these days whether weak dependencies can be used to express package preferences: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/WeakDependencies IIRC, there were some concerns but I don't remember what was the conclusion. The OR s

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: ​Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is evolving) nor are impact/consequences clear not are the prototypic

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo > > It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. > > ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is ev

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. ATM, neither is the technical i

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius >> wrote: >>> >>> On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo >>> >>> >>> It doesn