Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 03:46:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. people make mistakes. it happens, no big deal.

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update --skip-broken followed by yum update, right now (Fri Jul

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ralf Corsepius wrote: To me this is a clear case of package-push which should not have happened and is not related to karma votes at all. +1. The proper solution to prevent this kind of issues 100% reliably is to implement AutoQA, the only decent part of the Update Proposal and the one which

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:46:29 +0200 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. It's in stable now. The time in

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Gah! :-/ I wonder whether after years the Fedora N updates-testing report could finally be sent to users' list instead of test list? Who can make that happen? -- devel mailing list

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/10 3:44 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Gah! :-/ I wonder whether after years the Fedora N updates-testing report could finally be sent to users' list

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 12:44 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Gah! :-/ I wonder whether after years the Fedora N updates-testing report could finally be sent to users' list instead of test list? Who can

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:05:59 -0700, Adam wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 12:44 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Gah! :-/ I wonder whether after years the Fedora N updates-testing report could

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Schwendt wrote: A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially relevant to the users, when the updates aren't tested prior to entering

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 14:28 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:28:40 -0500, Michael wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially relevant to the

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 16:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can anybody tell me what went wrong with this update? It was submitted at 15:09 on 06-23, then made it into testing at 16:19 on 06-24 and was submitted for stable two hours later.

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: Updating F13 now works; Does it? Not for me. ... Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check -- Processing Dependency: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 for package: pidgin-evolution-2.7.1-2.fc13.i686 -- Processing Dependency:

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:58:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: Updating F13 now works; Does it? Not for me. It's only in updates-testing yet. Also, pidgin needed to be added to it. It failed rebuild due to a new tcl in the

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 06:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: Updating F13 now works; Does it? Not for me. Sigh... You're right. Some other updates happened and I thought this one was included. But it just got skipped. -- Braden McDaniel

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/25/10 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Until AutoQA is in place to tackle this, the obvious option is for there to be a process improvement whereby whoever's doing stable update pushes at least gets notified if a package has received negative

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/25/10 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Until AutoQA is in place to tackle this, the obvious option is for there to be a process improvement whereby whoever's doing

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Luke Macken
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 22:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I talked to notting c about this earlier, and we've hit this situation before. The 'scenario' is simply that there's really no screening between 'submit' and 'push' for stable updates, and this one was submitted to stable before any

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Luke Macken wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 22:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I talked to notting c about this earlier, and we've hit this situation before. The 'scenario' is simply that there's really no screening between 'submit' and 'push' for stable

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 06/26/2010 05:10 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: That would only work if the script that does the push to stable (as opposed to processing the request to push to stable) checks if any negative karma has appeared since the request has happened. Well, if there is a update push to stable request

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 11:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/26/2010 11:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Clearly the maintainer did not allow sufficient time for testing here; there's a grand 4 hour window between the update being 'pushed to testing' and 'submitted to stable'. That

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 12:14 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: The requirement for proventester feedback for critpath updates, when we turn it on, should also catch problems like this in the critpath. Evo isn't critpath, though, I believe. evolution-data-server is in the critpath, and having the

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Adam Miller
Sounds like it might need to be. Maybe push stable requests with -2 karma to some list that requires investigation and possibly a +3 (or other agreed upon number) proventesters karma to go stable? Just a thought. -AdamM (From Android) On Jun 25, 2010 6:27 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 16:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can anybody tell me what went wrong with this update? It was submitted at 15:09 on 06-23, then made it into testing at 16:19 on 06-24 and was submitted for stable two hours later. Between

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/26/2010 07:33 AM, Adam Miller wrote: Sounds like it might need to be. Maybe push stable requests with -2 karma to some list that requires investigation and possibly a +3 (or other agreed upon number) proventesters karma to go stable? Would you mind to explain how could have happened: #