Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-07 18:32 GMT+01:00 Chris Murphy : > On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > >- For configuration: What we really want is a VCS, dealing with >changesets, documenting who has changed what, when and why. Snapshots are >a really poor VCS. > > Obviously we don't hav

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy >>> wrote: On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Ot

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > 2014-03-07 14:31 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer : > remember. It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree > as possible /etc. People likely still want snapshot and rollback for > their actual _data_ as well. > > (Choosing a random point

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning Release engineering: N/A (not

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: I don't think that's accurate. OSTree doesn't touch /home from what I remember. It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree as possible /etc. People likely still want snapshot and rollback for their actual _data_ as well. Exact

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: i don't think people *really* like to restore a snapshot of /usr without /var/lib/rpm if they only know what that means at the end On an rpm-ostree system, /var/lib/rpm is a symlink to /usr/share/rpm. And that's only because I wanted to a

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-07 14:31 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer : > remember. It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree > as possible /etc. People likely still want snapshot and rollback for > their actual _data_ as well. > (Choosing a random point in the conversation...) I'm starting to think that snap

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.03.2014 14:31, schrieb Josh Boyer: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> I this project dead? I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots >>> and roller-derby sounded promising. Any other tools out there? >> >> There's a recent snapshot/rollback thread on the

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >>> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning >>> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >>> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >>>

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning >> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >> >> [1] >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Installer

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-06 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/17/2013 04:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Rollback Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher , Colin Walters With the advent of thinly-provisioned LVM pools, it has become possible for us to imp

F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2013-07-17 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Rollback Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher , Colin Walters With the advent of thinly-provisioned LVM pools, it has become possible for us to implement full-system LVM snapshotting for recordi