Hi,
After this change missed F37, it's now testable in F38:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/pull-request/100
systemd-253~rc2-3.fc38
Thanks Dusty, zbyszek!
Thomas
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On 6/27/22 13:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 11:20:13AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 6/27/22 10:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
This document represents a proposed
On 7/6/22 04:37, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 05.07.22 22:35, Dusty Mabe (du...@dustymabe.com) wrote:
>
>> On 6/25/22 15:06, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
>>> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
>>> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
>>>
On Di, 05.07.22 22:35, Dusty Mabe (du...@dustymabe.com) wrote:
> On 6/25/22 15:06, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> > community feedback. This proposal will only be
On 6/25/22 15:06, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
>
On 6/27/22 22:35, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 3:06 PM Vipul Siddharth
> wrote:
>>
>> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
>> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
>> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented
Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said:
> I'd be interested in seeing the justification for the revert in RHEL
> 9. From my perspective, it doesn't make sense to disable this because
> it makes bonds/teams/etc. device dependent. This can be particularly
> bad if you've got a bond and then you swap out
On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 3:06 PM Vipul Siddharth
wrote:
>
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> by the Fedora Engineering
> The `systemd-udev` package installs
> `"/usr/lib/systemd/network/99-default.link"`,
> which sets `Link.MACAddressPolicy=persistent`. This proposal is to
> change it to set `Link.MACAddressPolicy=none` to stop changing the MAC
> address. This is particularly important for bridge and bond devices.
On 6/27/22 13:03, Thomas Haller wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 10:10 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
>>> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
>>> process, proposals are publicly announced in
On 6/27/22 13:03, Thomas Haller wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 10:10 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
>> - For "big" users (the datacenter case), changing the policy make
>> sense,
>> but at the same time, those folks can just insert a policy
>> override,
>> they're most likely
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 17:26 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 27/06/2022 17:09, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
> > On 27/06/2022 17:05, Thomas Haller wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:09 +0100, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Twice now I have had to go and reconfigure my networks
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:34 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> I'm not "blaming" the tools, I completely understand that they were
> written a long time ago. But in fact the issue is fairly generic: any
> software which interacts with devices that udev also touches MUST
> wait
> for
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 10:10 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> > community feedback.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 06:08:13PM +0200, Thomas Haller wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 10:10 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > >
> > > - Deviate from upstream systemd.
> >
> > It is also important to mention that Fedora will "deviate" from
> > itself
> > (it's former self). We would
On 27/06/2022 17:09, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
On 27/06/2022 17:05, Thomas Haller wrote:
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:09 +0100, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
Twice now I have had to go and reconfigure my networks after a Fedora
upgrade has changed the MAC assignment policy.
Interesting. Are
On 27/06/2022 17:05, Thomas Haller wrote:
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:09 +0100, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
Twice now I have had to go and reconfigure my networks after a Fedora
upgrade has changed the MAC assignment policy.
Interesting. Are you sure it was twice? I thought it changed "only"
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 10:10 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > - Deviate from upstream systemd.
>
> It is also important to mention that Fedora will "deviate" from
> itself
> (it's former self). We would be changing a default in place since
> ~2013 [1].
>
> [1]
Hi,
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:09 +0100, Tom Hughes via devel wrote:
>
> Twice now I have had to go and reconfigure my networks after a Fedora
> upgrade has changed the MAC assignment policy.
Interesting. Are you sure it was twice? I thought it changed "only"
once in F31 (2019).
Thomas
On 6/27/22 07:34, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 09:40:53AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:10:31AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
This document
On 6/27/22 04:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
>
> Re variant 2: the proposal limited to brige/bond devices seems much more
> reasonable. In particular, the case described below of a server (virtualized
> or not) in a big datacenter is the one case where the benefits of
>
As I said before I don't care that much what the policy is but I do
care very much that Fedora keeps changing it.
Twice now I have had to go and reconfigure my networks after a Fedora
upgrade has changed the MAC assignment policy.
My vote is therefore to leave it as it is so that I don't have
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 09:40:53AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:10:31AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > >
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 11:20:13AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 6/27/22 10:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> >> process, proposals are
Hi,
On 6/27/22 10:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
>> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
>> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
>> community feedback. This proposal
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:10:31AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> > community
On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 12:36:14AM +0530, Vipul Siddharth wrote:
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> by the Fedora Engineering
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
== Summary ==
The `systemd-udev` package installs
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
== Summary ==
The `systemd-udev` package installs
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