Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:02 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: ... > Note, in terms of software compatibility with newer CPU baseline, > this has already been widely tested given that RHEL-8 built with > the z13 baseline and RHEL-9 built with z14 baseline. > I do agree though that this feels like the

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-22 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:39:55PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:56 PM Dan Horák wrote: > > > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > == Summary == > > > > Move the minimal architecture level

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-21 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 9:50 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > The current minimum at zEC12 is > targeting hardware that has been already obsoleted by the vendor. As I understand it, while zEC12 is EOL (you can no longer purchase it), it is not (yet) EOS, so existing systems can still obtain service from I

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-21 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > I'd argue that this should've been submitted as a System-Wide Change. > If I understand correctly, this change would affect every package that > is built on s390x? > As such, it would've been way too late for Fedora 37, as it should > also have been ready before the mass re

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-21 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:56 PM Dan Horák wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > == Summary == > > > Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x > > > architecture) to z13 to benefit from the new

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Summary == > > Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x > > architecture) to z13 to benefit from the new features and better > > performance in the newer CPU. > > I sup

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: == Summary == Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x architecture) to z13 to benefit from the new features and better performance in the newer CPU. I suppose, considering the mass rebuild is today, that this change only makes se

F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-15 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/z13BaselineForIBMZ This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Commi