Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 8:14 AM David Howells wrote: > Also, the isl package was split out from gcc so that cross-gcc could use it > also, but gcc now seems to be carrying its own isl package of a different > version (0.12.2 rather than 0.16.1). Do we still build with isl support or > could this

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread David Howells
I wonder if we should drop the cloog package from Fedora. It was separated from gcc so that both gcc and cross-gcc could use it. However neither of them now do. Also, the isl package was split out from gcc so that cross-gcc could use it also, but gcc now seems to be carrying its own isl package

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 03. 01. 23 v 4:30 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): Fabio Valentini wrote: - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a stable ABI,

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:52 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 1/2/23 22:30, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > >> compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > >> of feature

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 1/2/23 22:30, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: >> - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional >> compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets >> of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a >> stable AB

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a > stable ABI, you'd need to build crates for all necessary combi

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:06:52PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. > Apologies for my snide remark that visibly came out rude, sorry. Thank you, Kevin. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. Apologies for my snide remark that visibly came out rude, sorry. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:59:46AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > The application can pick the options with which each library is compiled? > What a stupid idea! Now I understand why the language is called "Rust". Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Pr

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a > stable ABI, you'd need to build crates for all necessary combi

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 3:48 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 9:37 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? > > > > Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust crat

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 9:37 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? > > Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust crates? > If someone were to spend the time to build the functionality

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust crates? Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:57 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 12/30/22 14:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 > >> > >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/30/22 14:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 >> >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive >> communi

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be imple

F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committe