Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-13 Thread Andreas Tunek
> so now i have the options of a upgrade to F15 while much work, > hughe health troubles and 2 weeks holidays are priority one > in my life this time Maybe if you complained less on mailing lists you would have time to try out F15. I have problems on my hardware as well (https://bugzilla.redhat.co

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.06.2011 19:33, schrieb David Malcolm: > It appears that you are unhappy and frustrated at the moment yes > One of Fedora's goals is to be a fast-moving distribution: systemd > offers significant improvements compared to previous init systems (for > me the integration with cgroups is parti

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-13 Thread David Malcolm
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 20:02 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: > > > Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, > > changed xorg and intel driver. > > But I have i686. > > mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos >

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics => systemd

2011-06-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/13/2011 03:13 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: ... > > systemd surpasses Upstart in every way. It's not in an "early > state". Upstart is much more limited and hence in a much earlier state > feature-wise. > ... > > Lennart > Superior design - yes I like it - but in practice there are stil

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.06.2011 09:13, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > systemd surpasses Upstart in every way. It's not in an "early > state". Upstart is much more limited and hence in a much earlier state > feature-wise. in theory the problem is that you are frcing bringing your baby to the users in a braindead

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 12.06.11 18:59, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: > >>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald > >>> wrote:

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/12/2011 08:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 13.06.2011 02:29, schrieb Genes MailLists: >> Perhaps this is not the way for you if you find it confusing ... my >> suggestion then is deal with systemd and its bugs/quirks or perhaps >> install F15 and replace systemd with upstart - that should w

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.06.2011 02:29, schrieb Genes MailLists: > Perhaps this is not the way for you if you find it confusing ... my > suggestion then is deal with systemd and its bugs/quirks or perhaps > install F15 and replace systemd with upstart - that should work the same > as f14 + a few f15 packages. you s

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/12/2011 07:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > >>> >> I have done this and its working - I've used rawhide with 2.6.39 >> kernel and also F15. See my comments below. I'll describe what you need >> to do using subset of F15. > > this forces a GLIBC-Upgrade, see my others posts Yes - I sai

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.06.2011 01:54, schrieb Genes MailLists: > On 06/12/2011 12:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers >> on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the >> desktop often hangs for some seconds >> >> this is nothing i would expect with

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/12/2011 12:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers > on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the > desktop often hangs for some seconds > > this is nothing i would expect with http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52213 > > > >

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 20:07, schrieb Lucas: > On 06/12/2011 10:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: >> >>> Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, >>> changed xorg and intel driver. >>> But I have i686. >> >> mhh - strange - an trying t

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Lucas
On 06/12/2011 10:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: > >> Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, >> changed xorg and intel driver. >> But I have i686. > > mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos > "Datei oder Ver

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: > Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, > changed xorg and intel driver. > But I have i686. mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos "Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" means "file not found" in english

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Reindl, You could also build it from sources. You should already have the latest kernel and the X server updates, compiling the intel driver will then produce a couple of user-space shared libraries that you can place in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers. That's it. -Ilyes 2011/6/12 Reindl Hara

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Lucas
On 06/12/2011 09:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: >> On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and >> Xorg. >> >> You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and inte

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Lucas
On 06/12/2011 09:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: >> On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and >> Xorg. >> >> You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and inte

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/12/2011 12:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upst

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: > On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. > > You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel > driver. > All of this you can download from koji and

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Lucas
On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 19:03, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: > >>> you said "upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to >>> install and use it" - so how and why damned must be a init-replac

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 19:03, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> you said "upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to >> install and use it" - so how and why damned must be a init-replace >> in a early state forced on a existing system? > > T

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> upstart is stil

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: >>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: >> >>> upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install >>> and use it

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: > >> upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install >> and use it. > > and why in the world is systemd forced afte

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install > and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 18:37, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers >>> on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the >>> desktop oft

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2011 18:37, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers >> on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the >> desktop often hangs for some seconds > > 1) Wrong list because why? F14 is i

Re: Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers > on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the > desktop often hangs for some seconds 1) Wrong list 2) Update to F15 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Fedora 14 and "Sandy Bridge" graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
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