Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 06:51:15PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jerry James writes: > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 5:37 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > Normally, I'd be in favour of "dragging out" the removal a bit, but > > > in this case I think we don't need to,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jerry James writes: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 5:37 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > Normally, I'd be in favour of "dragging out" the removal a bit, but > > in this case I think we don't need to, because of the relatively > > close replacement and the small number of users. It's

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-31 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 5:37 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Is it really worth it to go through a separate deprecation step? > xemacs users can switch to emacs after xemacs is removed. I see that > you are concerned about the plugins, but maybe it's just better to > drop xemacs and the

Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-31 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Deprecate_xemacs == Summary == Deprecate the xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw packages, all of which have dead upstreams. == Owner == * Name: [[User:jjames|Jerry James]] * Email: loganje...@gmail.com == Detailed Description

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 02:53:13PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Deprecate_xemacs > > I have been part of XEmacs upstream for over 20 years, and have > maintained the Fedora package for over 11 years. Upstream development Kudos! > == Summary == > Deprecate

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-30 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:46 PM Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > I see this documented here: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/deprecating-packages/#_consequences_of_a_package_being_deprecated > > but not in the packaging guideline: >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-30 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, 2020-12-30 at 14:53 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Deprecate_xemacs > > > == Summary == > Deprecate the xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, > and > neXtaw packages, all of which have dead upstreams. > > == Owner == > * Name:

Fedora 34 Change: Deprecate xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2020-12-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Deprecate_xemacs == Summary == Deprecate the xemacs, xemacs-packages-base, xemacs-packages-extra, and neXtaw packages, all of which have dead upstreams. == Owner == * Name: [[User:jjames|Jerry James]] * Email: loganje...@gmail.com == Detailed Description