Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-16 Thread Rudolf Kastl
how about supporters like e.g. the irc support group? * technical background: yes, * have to suffer the sins of others: yes, * have a different point of view on various changes and ideas: yes, * are closer to the user base and their common problems: yes kind regards, Rudolf Kastl -- devel mailin

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 19:35 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/14/2011 06:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > The issue that came up in the discussion was that there is a good group > > to use to include for QA. The qa group isn't really used and proventesters > > is a bit broad and its fu

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Or we can open it to the entire project and > just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate > gets elected. I don't see the harm in letting the electorate decide this. If you're not a packager and you somehow manage

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 14.11.2011, 12:31 -0500 schrieb Clyde E. Kunkel: > > Multidisciplinary membership is good. However, please keep a balance in > that no one group is over represented. > > Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community? I'd say no. Not only because I thin

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/14/2011 05:50 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:31:21PM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community? Very strong no from me. FESCO is a technical committee, supposed to provide strategic technical decisions

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 06:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The issue that came up in the discussion was that there is a good group > to use to include for QA. The qa group isn't really used and proventesters > is a bit broad and its future is in question. One possible solution is > to start using the qa grou

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:15:05 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that > fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging > group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the > body with technic

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 04:19:50PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that > > fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging > > group. That's arguably overly r

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that >> fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging >> group. That's arguably overly restrictive

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 04:30 PM, drago01 wrote: > That does not make sense. Why should a "non-technical member" be in > the body that make technical decisions? Agreed FESCO needs to be made up of people with really strong technical background and a be very skilled in maintaining and packaging components

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:31:21PM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community? > Should provide a nice balance to the technical side. Fesco exists to make technical decisions. The people who are members should be competent to make th

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 11/14/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett  wrote: >>> Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that >>> fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the pac

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/14/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that >> fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging >> group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that > fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging > group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the > body with technical oversight

Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely packaging, and in that s