Michael Scherer a écrit:
> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> > How else would you install an extension globally for all users?
>
> Or automate the installation of the addon ( like cobbler/pxe
> installation )
I think for that, we need upstream to provide a way to scri
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:44, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:14:45AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> How many multi-user systems run firefox from them? At the university
>
> We sure do.
Yes, but does it work, and how many developers use that? Do even the
students develo
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:14:45AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> How many multi-user systems run firefox from them? At the university
We sure do.
> where I used to work we "had" this and it was awful because the tool
> itself isn't written for this use case. This was a problem in 2008..
>
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 00:04 +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote:
> ons 2011-10-12 klockan 21:41 +0200 skrev Thomas Spura:
>
> > I set them often to 1, but don't want to upkarma my own update because
> > it feels like cheating...
> >
> > Especially updates, that fix a broken package, are an examples, t
ons 2011-10-12 klockan 21:41 +0200 skrev Thomas Spura:
> I set them often to 1, but don't want to upkarma my own update because
> it feels like cheating...
>
> Especially updates, that fix a broken package, are an examples, that the
> current path (with forcing updates in updates-testing) taken i
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:58:15 +0200
Henrik Nordström wrote:
> mån 2011-10-10 klockan 20:44 +0200 skrev Thomas Spura:
>
> > Forcing only critpath packages being in updates-testing and the rest
> > being allowed to push to stable directly would help to fix issues
> > much faster.
>
> You could set
mån 2011-10-10 klockan 20:44 +0200 skrev Thomas Spura:
> Forcing only critpath packages being in updates-testing and the rest
> being allowed to push to stable directly would help to fix issues much
> faster.
You could set stable karma threshold to 1. It's then sufficient one
tester gives positiv
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 20:38 +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote:
> tis 2011-10-11 klockan 10:49 -0700 skrev Adam Williamson:
>
> > There obviously is a _legitimate_ question as to whether you ought to be
> > able to add your package into anyone else's update if you aren't a
> > provenpackager; it's not
tis 2011-10-11 klockan 10:49 -0700 skrev Adam Williamson:
> There obviously is a _legitimate_ question as to whether you ought to be
> able to add your package into anyone else's update if you aren't a
> provenpackager; it's not necessarily something we'd want to do. But I
> think provenpackagers
On 10/11/2011 09:32 PM, Thomas Spura wrote:
> The main *BIG* difference is, that draft symlinks the extension
> *directory* and the script expects a install.rdf file below that.
> This means, the symlinking needs to happen one step below that, so that
> all files inside of the extension_id folder a
Le dimanche 09 octobre 2011 à 13:28 +0200, Christoph Wickert a écrit :
> Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> > That just reminds me while packing firefox extensions is not a good idea.
>
> How else would you install an extension globally for all users?
Or automate the insta
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 20:46 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote:
> > Well, I do. It seems pretty simple: we only have a few extensions
> > packaged. We should consider extensions to be effectively API
> > dependencies of Firefox, which means any Firefox update must also
> > include updates for the dependenc
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:57:35 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 11:40 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:16:52 +0200
> > Thomas Spura wrote:
> >
> > > It would be great, when bodhi would allow me to add an updated
> > > mozilla-noscript to the firefox update, whe
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:49:54AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> There obviously is a _legitimate_ question as to whether you ought to be
> able to add your package into anyone else's update if you aren't a
> provenpackager; it's not necessarily something we'd want to do. But I
> think provenpac
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:01:00 -0400
David Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Thomas Spura
> wrote:
> > The automatic requires proposed in bug #745038, does this:
> >
> > Requires: firefox >= 3.0
> > Requires: firefox <= 10.0a1
> >
> > and seems to work fine h
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 11:40 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:16:52 +0200
> Thomas Spura wrote:
>
> > It would be great, when bodhi would allow me to add an updated
> > mozilla-noscript to the firefox update, when I notice, that the new
> > firefox upadate in testing breaks it.
> >
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:14 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 05:28, Christoph Wickert
> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
> >> wrote:
> >> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 13:16 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:05:28 +0200
> Till Maas wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:43:58PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> >
> > > 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all
> > > extensions are still compatible?
> >
>
On 10/11/2011 10:36 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Thomas Spura (toms...@fedoraproject.org) said:
>>> If the required updates are due to version checks in the extensions,
>>> it might be possible to have RPM have a dependency generator that
>>> checks these and outputs the appropriate Requires/Confli
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:36:01 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Thomas Spura (toms...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > > If the required updates are due to version checks in the
> > > extensions, it might be possible to have RPM have a dependency
> > > generator that checks these and outputs the appropri
Thomas Spura (toms...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > If the required updates are due to version checks in the extensions,
> > it might be possible to have RPM have a dependency generator that
> > checks these and outputs the appropriate Requires/Conflicts lines,
> > such that this could be easily ca
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:18:10 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) said:
> > On 10/10/2011 08:52 PM, Thomas Spura wrote:
> >
> > > So there doesn't need to be more co-maintainers (which is welcomed
> > > anyway), but it would help to get such updates pushed to stable
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:18:10 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) said:
> > On 10/10/2011 08:52 PM, Thomas Spura wrote:
> >
> > > So there doesn't need to be more co-maintainers (which is welcomed
> > > anyway), but it would help to get such updates pushed to stable
Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) said:
> On 10/10/2011 08:52 PM, Thomas Spura wrote:
>
> > So there doesn't need to be more co-maintainers (which is welcomed
> > anyway), but it would help to get such updates pushed to stable directly
> > like it was without the forced period in updates-testin
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Although the branch for rawhide was once named devel, the naming of this
> as devel does not limit its topic to people running rawhide or the
> software
> versions and packages in the rawhide branch. This list is about
> development
> of Fedora. If Thomas were asking for
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:30:19 -0600
Tim Flink wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
> Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> > 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all
> > extensions are still compatible?
>
> Anyone with a FAS account can pull updates from updates-testing and
> pro
On 10/10/2011 11:40 AM, Tim Flink wrote:
> On the bright side, I don't see how AutoQA could help in this situation
> so my answer isn't "that's the job of AutoQA". On the down side, I
> don't really have any good answers on how to improve the situation.
>
> How do we encourage people to use updates
Am 10.10.2011 18:03, schrieb Peter Gueckel:
> This is the devel list, not the general list. Sorry.
...which doesn't solve the problem either. Sorry.
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On 10/10/2011 08:52 PM, Thomas Spura wrote:
> So there doesn't need to be more co-maintainers (which is welcomed
> anyway), but it would help to get such updates pushed to stable directly
> like it was without the forced period in updates-testing or a heads up
> before doing such an update.
I thi
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:16:52 +0200
Thomas Spura wrote:
> It would be great, when bodhi would allow me to add an updated
> mozilla-noscript to the firefox update, when I notice, that the new
> firefox upadate in testing breaks it.
> Otherwise, firefox is pushed to stable more faster, than
> mozilla
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
Christoph Wickert wrote:
> 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all extensions
> are still compatible?
Anyone with a FAS account can pull updates from updates-testing and
provide karma to those updates. Karma giving isn't limited to th
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:05:28 +0200
Till Maas wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:43:58PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> > 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all
> > extensions are still compatible?
>
> The problem is that testers seem to ignore test cases provided for
>
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:03:34AM -0600, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Thomas Spura wrote:
>
> >> So, why are you using devel?
> >
> > This happened on F-15.
> >
>
> This is the devel list, not the general list. Sorry.
>
Although the branch for rawhide was once named devel, the naming of this as
dev
Thomas Spura wrote:
>> So, why are you using devel?
>
> This happened on F-15.
>
This is the devel list, not the general list. Sorry.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:41:43 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 03:33 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:10:12PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> On 10/09/2011 10:59 PM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial
> >
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:07:17 -0600
Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
>
> > Yeah sometimes is okay of course. Happening every two or three weeks
> > it isn't.
>
> So, why are you using devel?
>
This happened on F-15.
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Am 09.10.2011 21:28, schrieb Heiko Adams:
> Why don't you blame *mozilla* to make it possible to easily install
> and manage extensions centralized?
I do, but doing so doesn't get package maintainers out of duty.
We (Fedora) are responsible for working packages and if upstream is
messing up, we ha
On 10/10/2011 03:33 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:10:12PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 10/09/2011 10:59 PM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial packages.
>>
>> Sometimes unavoidable due to security issues
>
> Why was
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:10:12PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/09/2011 10:59 PM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
>
> >
> > I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial packages.
>
> Sometimes unavoidable due to security issues
Why was it unavoidable with Firefox? Afaik updated Fire
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 09:28:45PM +0200, Heiko Adams wrote:
> Why don't you blame *mozilla* to make it possible to easily install
> and manage extensions centralized? This would IMHO be the best way for
> all because it makes packaging extensions allmost unnecessary.
Using the same logic you sho
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:20:56 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I already gave a reason why we should maintain these packages as RPM,
> but unfortunately you have trimmed that part of my mail: There is no way
> to install and manage extensions globally for all users on a computer.
There is also no
Dne 9.10.2011 20:31, Christoph Wickert napsal(a):
> This is about installing extensions, not about actually *managing* them.
>
> There are several manual steps involved here (download, extract, look up
> app-id, create folder, copy to folder, register) and by *managing*
> something efficiently I me
Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
> Yeah sometimes is okay of course. Happening every two or three weeks
> it isn't.
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Am 09.10.2011 21:09, schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke:
> Am 09.10.2011 19:40, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
>>> I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial
>>> packages.
>> Sometimes unavoidable due to security issues
>
> Yeah *sometimes* is okay of
Am 09.10.2011 19:40, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
>> I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial packages.
> Sometimes unavoidable due to security issues
Yeah *sometimes* is okay of course. Happening every two or three weeks
it isn't.
Regards,
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Fedora Events Ninja / Co
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:59 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>
> problem is that the packaged extensions for FF/TB are NOT
> updated as rapidly they should, but this is not a problem
> of firefox itself
No, but it's a problem of Fedora and we should address it instead of
just throwing it over th
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:14 -0600 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 05:28, Christoph Wickert
> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
> >> wrote:
> >> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:3
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 19:15 +0200 schrieb Matej Cepl:
> Dne 9.10.2011 18:20, Christoph Wickert napsal(a):
>
> > I already gave a reason why we should maintain these packages as RPM,
> > but unfortunately you have trimmed that part of my mail: There is no way
> > to install and manage extensio
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> I'd prefer a bit less bleeding edge over breaking crucial packages.
Sometimes unavoidable due to security issues
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Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
> * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that
Am 09.10.2011 12:50, schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>> Which extensions are you talking about? The ones I use never caused an
>> such issues.
>
> For example mozilla-adblockplus or chatzilla, also German language packs
> or dictionaries.
use adblockplus from the mozilla-extensions page
works fine w
Dne 9.10.2011 18:20, Christoph Wickert napsal(a):
> I'm afraid I don't understand your question. What blue icon?
I thought there is some kind of Fedora fascism in play ("Unless it is
packaged by Fedora community, it is no good."). I was apparently wrong.
> I already gave a reason why we should m
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 05:28, Christoph Wickert
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
>> wrote:
>> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01:
>> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 17:56 +0200 schrieb Matej Cepl:
> Dne 8.10.2011 23:43, Christoph Wickert napsal(a):
> >* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps
> > me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 weeks I had to pitch in
> > three times and upda
Dne 8.10.2011 23:43, Christoph Wickert napsal(a):
>* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps
> me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 weeks I had to pitch in
> three times and update packages to get things working again.
> Sometimes there
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert
> >> wrote:
> >> > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid re
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:05:28 +0200
Till Maas wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:43:58PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> > 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all
> > extensions are still compatible?
>
> The problem is that testers seem to ignore test cases provided for
> u
Am Samstag, den 08.10.2011, 23:51 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>
> Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert:
> > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> > release and breaks Firefox hor
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01:
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert
>> wrote:
>> > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
>> > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01:
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert
> wrote:
> > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> > release and breaks Firefox
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert
wrote:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
> * My favorite extensions (and actually the only t
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:43:58PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> 3. Can someone (I'm looking at you, QA) make sure all extensions
> are still compatible?
The problem is that testers seem to ignore test cases provided for
updates, because there is an test case to check for extensi
W dniu 08.10.2011 23:43, Christoph Wickert pisze:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
> * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
> Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > So what can we do to improve the situation?
> > 1. Can we bring back the language packs as part of the packages?
> > 2. Can the FF maintainers make su
Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
> * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
Christoph Wickert wrote:
...snip...
> So what can we do to improve the situation?
> 1. Can we bring back the language packs as part of the packages?
> 2. Can the FF maintainers make sure that all maintainers of
> extensions get notified of cha
On 10/08/2011 05:43 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
>* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha
Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
release and breaks Firefox horribly:
* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps
me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 w
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