Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-17 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:12 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > We CANNOT just drop half of the distribution just because upstream > arbitrarily decided to desupport its widely used language interpreter in > favor of an incompatible new major version. > Well, to be fair the writing has been on the wall fo

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Deprecating_Packages This policy is highly impractical. Any package can be deprecated without notice, in some situations even without any kind of approval (if there is nothing using it in Fedora yet). One needs to do a repoquery

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Petr Viktorin wrote: > Would *you* be interested in maintaining python2 past 2020, with no > upstream support and 3415 dependent packages? Yet, I just see NO practical alternative to SOMEBODY doing just that. It just needs to be done, just as with GTK+ 1 and 2, and Qt 3 and 4. (Yes, all those ar

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-12 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 23:38, Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 09/11/18 11:52, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 16:48, Petr Viktorin > > wrote: > > [..] > > > > These numbers hide an important fact: many things currently come with > > RPMs for both py

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-11 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 09/11/18 11:52, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 16:48, Petr Viktorin > wrote: [..] These numbers hide an important fact: many things currently come with RPMs for both python2 and python3. More detailed statistics (based on SRPMs, not binar

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-11 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 16:48, Petr Viktorin wrote: [..] > These numbers hide an important fact: many things currently come with > RPMs for both python2 and python3. > > More detailed statistics (based on SRPMs, not binary RPMs): > http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/ > Graph with historical data: http://

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-11 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 09/10/18 11:26, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: Just FTR current numbers about packages which requires python3 vs python2: # dnf repoquery -C --whatrequires python3| grep -cv i686; dnf repoquery -C --whatrequires python2| grep -cv i686 Last metadata expiration check: 0:59:03 ago on Mon 10 Sep 2018 18

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-10 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Just FTR current numbers about packages which requires python3 vs python2: # dnf repoquery -C --whatrequires python3| grep -cv i686; dnf repoquery -C --whatrequires python2| grep -cv i686 Last metadata expiration check: 0:59:03 ago on Mon 10 Sep 2018 18:23:45 BST. 3034 Last metadata expiration che

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.9.2018 05:07, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 6:00 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 9.9.2018 23:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:29 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 7.9.2018 19:21, Raphael Groner wrote: Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for packag

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 6:00 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 9.9.2018 23:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:29 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 7.9.2018 19:21, Raphael Groner wrote: > >>> Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review with > >>> python2

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-09 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 9.9.2018 23:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:29 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 7.9.2018 19:21, Raphael Groner wrote: Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review with python2 only are now invalid? Yes. You can always get a FPC exception from (any) gu

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:29 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 7.9.2018 19:21, Raphael Groner wrote: > > Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review with > > python2 only are now invalid? > > Yes. You can always get a FPC exception from (any) guideline or a FPC > exemption from t

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-09 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 7.9.2018 19:21, Raphael Groner wrote: Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review with python2 only are now invalid? Yes. You can always get a FPC exception from (any) guideline or a FPC exemption from the review process, or a FESCo approved Change proposal, or cheat

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RG" == Raphael Groner writes: RG> Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review RG> with python2 only are now invalid? Well they certainly shouldn't be approved; the idea of deprecating packages in this manner is to prevent the set of things which depend on them from g

Re: Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-07 Thread Raphael Groner
Does this deprecation of python2 mean requests for package review with python2 only are now invalid? For instance, I've asked upstream of pyVirtualize [+] for support of python3 [++]. Any patch to get pyvirtualize [+++] as a package to build with python3 is very welcome, though it's not the mai

Heads Up: python2 is marked as deprecated

2018-09-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
In line with the "Mass Python 2 Package Removal" Fedora 30 Change [0], we've just marked python2 and all it's subpackages as deprecated in rawhide [1]. No new packages can depend on python2 except renames and FESCo/FPC exceptions. See more info in the Guidelines for Deprecating Fedora Package