Re: Introducing wicked

2010-12-02 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:29:30 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-30 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. The project name is pretty close to wicd, also a

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:24:34AM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:29:30 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Olaf Kirch
On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:29:30 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? Indeed ... You don't explain how it's better than

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Jon Masters
Hi Olaf, Thanks for posting about your project. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: 1. ifcfg files are dead Ok. But I think we want to be very careful with this. Yes, it's nice to use structured data formats but IMO we want to make sure sysadmins can still edit files by hand

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 04:02:28PM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: Hi Olaf, Thanks for posting about your project. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: 1. ifcfg files are dead Ok. But I think we want to be very careful with this. Yes, it's nice to use structured data

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:24:34 +0100 Olaf Kirch o...@suse.de wrote: 3. Why not NetworkManager? On the other hand, there's NetworkManager (and I'm getting to this point because Pete Zaitcev brought this up). Right now, NetworkManager doesn't handle bridges, bonds, infiniband, token ring -

Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Olaf Kirch
Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? The

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? Indeed ... You don't explain how it's better than netcf. I notice a lot of hand-written C config file parsing in your

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:29:30 + Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? Indeed ... You don't explain how

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread nodata
On 25/11/10 17:24, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 17:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:17:48PM +0100, nodata wrote: On 25/11/10 17:24, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may