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I understand that systemd.Boot is a great achievement and improvement.
But GRUB was great too! And we just cannot throw 70% of GRUB users under the
Fedora bus!
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 02:05:08PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> This sort of analogy is not helpful at all. That's not what I'm doing.
> I'm just giving advice based on my own experience writing books and
> articles on super complicated material, and having a fairly good grasp
> of GRUB behavior
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 2:05 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 3:58 AM Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:49 AM e wrote:
> > >
> > > sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power:
> > >
> > >
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 3:58 AM Mauricio Tavares wrote:
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> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:49 AM e wrote:
> >
> > sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power:
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630
> >
> > "I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 7:02 AM e wrote:
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> On Thu, 27 May 2021 12:54:31 +0200 astoundingly, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> wrote:
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> > On 27.05.2021 12:30, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > > Support for other OS for those who like/need to dualboot?
> >
> > Yes. For example you can press "W" to
On Thu, 27 May 2021 12:54:31 +0200 astoundingly, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
> On 27.05.2021 12:30, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > Support for other OS for those who like/need to dualboot?
>
> Yes. For example you can press "W" to start Windows directly.
>
> Also native UEFI Boot allows
On 27.05.2021 12:30, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
Support for other OS for those who like/need to dualboot?
Yes. For example you can press "W" to start Windows directly.
Also native UEFI Boot allows multiple bootloaders.
Cutting date for hardware that supports it?
All hardware with UEFI
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 6:27 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
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> On 27.05.2021 12:13, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > why systemd-boot is better ?
>
> 1. Not a bootloader.
> 2. Very simple and clean.
> 3. Starts Linux kernel directly with EFIStub without any bootloaders.
> 4. Can be used with
On 27.05.2021 12:13, Sérgio Basto wrote:
why systemd-boot is better ?
1. Not a bootloader.
2. Very simple and clean.
3. Starts Linux kernel directly with EFIStub without any bootloaders.
4. Can be used with XBOOTLDR[1] on any FS, supported by your hardware[2].
5. Has full BLS support.
Links:
On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 11:49 +0200, e wrote:
> sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power:
>
> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630
>
> "I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly
> complicated, that we shouldn't
> explain it.
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:49 AM e wrote:
>
> sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power:
>
> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630
>
> "I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly
> complicated, that we shouldn't
> explain it.
On 27.05.2021 11:49, e wrote:
"I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly complicated,
that we shouldn't
explain it. Explaining it will take a lot of resources, and then it has to be
maintained or it
goes stale again. So when in doubt, just say no and don't document it"
sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power:
https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630
"I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly complicated,
that we shouldn't
explain it. Explaining it will take a lot of resources, and then it has to be
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