Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:36:52PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700, Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/31/2011 09:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes, both of those are true. I just get a bit irked that the issue keeps getting raised as if it's some stunning new discovery and the anaconda team has been hideously lax in not caring about it, because it's well-known and they _do_ care about

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Jeremiah Summers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed: I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M allocated to an onboard video chip? -- The

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700, Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not It actually dumps the ext4 image on the drive and then resizes it to fit

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:36, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,  Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not It

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread John Reiser
It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the near future. Where is this issue being tracked? -- -- devel mailing

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-30 Thread Jeremiah Summers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: In both cases I had 2

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 21:11 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote: I would say thank you but the tone I'm getting in the email seems rather reluctant to try and be as memory efficient as possible, a little bit like we just did it to stop your whining. I'm sure that's not the tone you mean and even if

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Brian C. Lane wrote: selinux is a big example of this, causing a large spike as it is installed. That should[1] no longer be an issue. [1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-29 Thread drago01
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue. That is more than enough. Please file a bug(s) and include the logs from /tmp/*log

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-29 Thread Jeremiah Summers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Brian C. Lane wrote: selinux is a big example of this, causing a large spike as it is installed. That should[1] no longer be an issue. [1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html -- devel mailing list

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed: I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M allocated to an onboard video chip? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive.

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue. That is more than enough. Please

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:04 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Brian C. Lane wrote: selinux is a big example of this, causing a large spike as it is installed. That should[1] no longer be an issue. [1]

Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player and it dies starting up the installer. It also dies trying to install on my CTL 2GO pad.

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/27/2011 12:17 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: 768 MB!!! When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible, RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap up to about 8 GB but becomes much more expensive above that (ie. up to about 6 VMs with all

Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com writes: 768 MB!!! When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible, RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap up to about 8 GB but becomes much more expensive above that (ie. up to about 6 VMs with all

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-27 Thread alan
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player and it dies starting up the installer. It also dies trying to install on my CTL 2GO pad.

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 08:08:20AM +, Andre Robatino wrote: Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com writes: 768 MB!!! When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible, RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap up to about 8 GB but

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-27 Thread drago01
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player and it dies

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 05:35:19PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why does it need so much to start with? Because the installer initrd contains the kitchen sink. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-24 Thread Brian C. Lane
much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. I'd love to see reduced memory requirements for anaconda in F16. Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Being live

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-22 Thread Jesse Keating
. Moving it into the initrd resolved a lot of outstanding issues with Anaconda, and removed a lot of duplicate code that was difficult to maintain. There was a jump in memory requirements, as now all of that content was loaded into memory, and there are potential fixes being worked on. However

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-21 Thread Johannes Lips
Hello, what about using the Text Mode for the install? [1] According to the release notes it only needs 256MB of RAM so I think it should be feasible, or? [2] Are there anything preventing the usage of the textmode? Best regards, Johannes [1]

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-21 Thread Andre Robatino
Johannes Lips johannes.lips at googlemail.com writes: what about using the Text Mode for the install? [1] According to the release notes it only needs 256MB of RAM so I think it should be feasible, or? [2] Are there anything preventing the usage of the textmode? Unfortunately, those numbers

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 16:02 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. It is not just

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 16:02:08 -0600, Pete Zaitcev zait...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Arun SAG
memory requirements for anaconda in F16. [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-February/149110.html -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c00l.in/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread John Reiser
requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. I'd love to see reduced memory requirements for anaconda in F16. Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Being live (running from media without install) might have other advantages in the stated

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:31:55 +0200, John Reiser wrote: Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. [...] Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. This reduces the memory requirements by 128MB: Fedora-15-i686-Live

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Would it be possible to create a custom image that just does a minimal (possibly text-based) install? This might reduce memory requirements even more, and extra packages could be added later - the DVD could be used as a repo if bandwidth is an issue. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. It is not just Anaconda. F15 GA kernel would not even uncompress initramfs on

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Aditya Patawari
Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before installation. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ India --

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/21/2011 10:51 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before installation. Live installer

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:42:40PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 10:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be coordinated and documented

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread John Reiser
http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several documentation including installation guide and release notes not to mention changes in the default

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 11:17 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542 Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional. The F14 way of That bug is that the kernel doesn't display a simple

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542 Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional.  The F14 way of That bug is that the kernel doesn't display a

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 06:47:55PM -0600, Larry Vaden wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542 Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional.  

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-26 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: Why?  So users can scroll back to see this helpful stuff and try to decipher what it means? I guess you have a point --- perhaps F15 and Natty 11.04 Alpha 2 have it right --- this afternoon, Natty bombed out with a message to

Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several documentation including installation guide and release notes not to mention changes in the default

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 10:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several documentation including installation