Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Lukáš Nykrýn
After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As a workaround I have put Provides: /sbin/service in the initscript spec, but I think that

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:38:53 +0100 Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. > Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, > which was recently moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were > uninstallable. As a workaround I have put Pro

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Lukáš Nykrýn
Pá 15. březen 2013, 17:47:05 CET, Kevin Fenzi napsal: On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:38:53 +0100 Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages w

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/15/2013 05:38 PM, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As a workaround I have put Provides: /sbin/servic

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/15/2013 05:38 PM, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately >> there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently >> moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I am very much opposed to this change. You need to keep files which are expected to be in /bin or /sbin under these paths. /sbin is a symlink to /usr/sbin, so calling /sbin/service still works.

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 03/15/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius >> wrote: >>> >>> I am very much opposed to this change. You need to keep files which are >>> expected to be in /bin or /sbin under these path

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned it in the email that started this thread. Still it would be nice to drop legacy provide name after packages stop Requiring it. Michal -- devel

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > Pá 15. březen 2013, 17:47:05 CET, Kevin Fenzi napsal: > >> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:38:53 +0100 >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >>> Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbi

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: >> >> Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. > > > Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned it in the email that started this > thread. Still it would be nice to drop legac

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 07:07 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: Well I was reading an IRC discussion on devel. I'm like a horse with blinders. "This used to work and doesn't anymore". I cannot be sure, but I think you're referring here to the breakage caused by initscripts-9.45-1 due to the missing "Provides: /sbi

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 03/15/2013 07:07 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: >> >> Well I was reading an IRC discussion on devel. I'm like a horse with >> blinders. "This used to work and doesn't anymore". > > > I cannot be sure, but I think you're referring here to the brea

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 15/03/13 11:07 AM, Dan Mashal wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned it in the email that started this thread. Stil

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/15/2013 10:38 AM, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As a workaround I have put Provides: /sbin/servic

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-16 Thread Rex Dieter
Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually say that anywhere? -- rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. > > That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually say that > anywhere? but WHY are they not saying it clearly? until now UsrMove is a half-baken

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 19:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > > > >> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. > > > > That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually say that > > anywhere? >

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2013 17:12, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 19:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: >>> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >>> >>> That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately > there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved > to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As a workaround I have > put Provides: /sbin/service in the init

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately > there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently > moved to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As a > workaround I have put Provides: /sbin/service in the initscrip

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : >> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately >> there is a lot of packages requiring /sbin/service, which was recently moved >> to /usr/sbin/, and these packages were uninstallable. As

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-17 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 17:31 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 17.03.2013 17:12, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 19:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> [root@fileserver:~]$ system-config-users > >> The value for the SHELL variable was not found the /etc/shells file > >> This incident

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >>> 2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.03.2013 08:27, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 15.03.13 11:07, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > > On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > >> > >> Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. > > > > > > Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 04:32, schrieb Mathieu Bridon: > On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 17:31 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 17.03.2013 17:12, schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 19:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: [root@fileserver:~]$ system-config-users The value for the SHELL variable was

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >> >> That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually say >> that anywhere? > > but WHY are they not saying it clearly? Be

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 08:27, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : > After usr move packages should not ins

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> > >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. > >> > >> That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually s

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Rex Dieter
Michal Sekletar wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >> >> >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >> >> >> >> That's not necessarily true. Do o

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Michal Sekletar
Hi Rex, On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 07:57 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Michal Sekletar wrote: > > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > >> >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> After usr move packages sh

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. That's not necessar

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Michal Sekletar
Hi, On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:54, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> After usr move pac

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > > > After usr move

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2013 18:40, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: >

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 19, 2013 12:13 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 19.03.2013 18:40, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald > > > wrote: > > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrot

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-19 Thread Rex Dieter
Michal Sekletar wrote: >> IMHO, this needs amending to say: >> In addition, *new* Fedora packages MUST NOT ... > > I would argue that this is not what should be done. Packagers should fix > their packages instead of relying on the old behavior which in now > basically compat only thing. This is