On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:15:24PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> shown that the answer is "probably not, actually". And it's _really
> hard_ for me to go to Red Hat and say "hey, um, I know you're paying
> for this Gitlab contract we can use, but can you please do this huge
> project, with
* Daniel P. Berrangé:
> We do much the same in libvirt
>
> https://github.com/libvirt/libvirt-python/pull/4#issuecomment-662443409
>
> FWIW, there's no need to write a bot to achieve this - there's a
> a github action:
>
> https://github.com/apps/repo-lockdown
>
> you can simply enable for
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 11:40:43AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 01:20:53PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > Note the GNOME auto-closer provides a comment telling the user that the
> > primary repo is on gitlab and pointing them to where it is. Logging
>
>
> How hard
On Wed, Dec 1 2021 at 11:40:43 AM -0500, Matthew Miller
wrote:
How hard would it be to actually automatically mirror the PR?
It actually does that, but if you don't follow up on GitLab it's just
going to get closed, since PRs from new contributors are never good
enough to merge the first
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 01:20:53PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Note the GNOME auto-closer provides a comment telling the user that the
> primary repo is on gitlab and pointing them to where it is. Logging
How hard would it be to actually automatically mirror the PR?
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Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 04:22:42 PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
Well that would be what I was missing. I guess this should be much
less controversial, then, if it's OK for people to just continue
using dist-git forever and completely ignore src-git? Nobody is ever
required to use something
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 02:12:29PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 01. 12. 21 0:37, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 1 2021 at 12:27:35 AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman
> > wrote:
> > > How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting PR and
> > > issues to the Github mirror where
On 01. 12. 21 0:37, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Wed, Dec 1 2021 at 12:27:35 AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman
wrote:
How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting PR and
issues to the Github mirror where they cannot be applied/fixed?
For GNOME we just set up a bot that autocloses
On 01. 12. 21 13:03, Hunor Csomortáni wrote:
Packit developer and Source-git SIG member here, joining two days late
to this thread.
One important thing to call out: the source-git workflow is not
officially adopted by the Fedora Community. All the work that is
ongoing in this space is
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:09 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
>
> Fedora Council has already effectively stated
On Wed, Dec 1 2021 at 12:27:35 AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman
wrote:
How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting PR and
issues to the Github mirror where they cannot be applied/fixed?
For GNOME we just set up a bot that autocloses every PR.
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 12:27:35AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Michel Alexandre Salim [30/11/2021 15:22] :
> >
> > At the risk of straying off-topic, an approach I really like (which is
> > in the spirit of Git being distributed) is to use an open source forge
> > primarily, with GitHub only
* Michel Alexandre Salim [30/11/2021 15:22] :
>
> At the risk of straying off-topic, an approach I really like (which is
> in the spirit of Git being distributed) is to use an open source forge
> primarily, with GitHub only as backup.
How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:58:09PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Whenever this topic has come up, I've see lots of this, except people don't
> say the first part out loud: "Of course _I_ use GitHub for most of my stuff,
> because of all of the advantages — but Fedora, Fedora should never." We
>
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Also bear in mind you can't actually forbid source git repositories
> on any platforms.
>
> Some maintainers already use source git repositories, they just don't
> happen to be blessed by the Fedora project. If what Fedora offers
> is kneecapped, the maintainers can
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> It is more than just sysadmin time involved though. One of the most
> compelling parts of GitLab is its CI framework and the free runners it
> provides projects.
Any kind of CI support should be considered nice-to-have and not a required
feature of a git forge. You
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> The second issue has been the general rule that Fedora systems run by
> infrastructure use Fedora Linux or RHEL. Packaging up all the ruby
> gems and various services needed is a large task and usually falls on
> someone like Neal Gompa to try a stab at it.
Even if
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Nope! The Packit Service bot works just like a human packager and syncs
> back changes other packagers have made.
I do not see how that can work for things like conditionally-applied
patches. Unless you just drop them into src-git as patches, which entirely
defeats the
Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
IMHO (as a non-candidate), it is sad that this question has to be asked at
all:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 04:22:42PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 04:42:18 PM -0500, Matthew Miller
wrote:
Nope! The Packit Service bot works just like a human packager and
syncs
back changes other packagers have made.
Well that would be what I was missing. I guess
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:25:29PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 03:15:24 PM -0500, Matthew Miller
wrote:
source-git is intended to be
distributed and close to upstreams.
Interesting. Why? What you and David are both saying seems so weird to
me, I suddenly wonder if
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you support
> allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on gitlab.com, which a
> proprietary software git forge?
>
> Fedora Council has already effectively
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:25:29PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 03:15:24 PM -0500, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > source-git is intended to be
> > distributed and close to upstreams.
>
> Interesting. Why? What you and David are both saying seems so weird to me, I
>
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:15:24PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> > gitlab.com, which a
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 04:22:42PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Well that would be what I was missing. I guess this should be much
> less controversial, then, if it's OK for people to just continue
> using dist-git forever and completely ignore src-git? Nobody is ever
> required to use
I echo your views and agree with you completely. FOSS implementations
should be used whenever available. - Ahmed Almeleh (Candidate for FESCo,
the youngest of them.)
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 19:59, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:06 PM Michael Catanzaro
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I
On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 04:42:18 PM -0500, Matthew Miller
wrote:
Nope! The Packit Service bot works just like a human packager and
syncs
back changes other packagers have made.
Well that would be what I was missing. I guess this should be much less
controversial, then, if it's OK for people
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 16:26, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
> > Could we set up open-source Gitlab and run that? Well, history has
> shown that the answer is "probably not, actually".
>
> I don't believe it. If GNOME and KDE and freedesktop.org and Debian and
> Purism can all do it, I'm pretty
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:25:29PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> src-git is exclusively used for downstream Fedora packaging, so I
> don't expect upstreams to be interested at all, unless upstream
> developers are also the Fedora packagers, right? I'm also assuming
So, we do have a lot of
On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 03:15:24 PM -0500, Matthew Miller
wrote:
source-git is intended to be
distributed and close to upstreams.
Interesting. Why? What you and David are both saying seems so weird to
me, I suddenly wonder if I am seriously misunderstanding something,
because I know you're
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:53:54PM -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> coordinate their work. Even if you spend your time working solely
> upstream, src-git still ultimately goes through dist-git via PackIt as
> would existing package maintenance. dist-git therefore is the
> authoritative source of
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 08:58:58PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> interview, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
> I actually briefly mentioned this topic in my last interview for
> FESCo, one year ago (last paragraph, the "open question"):
>
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
Fedora Council has already effectively stated
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:58 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:06 PM Michael Catanzaro
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> > gitlab.com, which a proprietary
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
I am not one of these candidates, but I
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:06 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
>
> Fedora Council has already effectively stated
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:05 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> I mean... that would have been a good way to make sure everyone at least
> provided some answer, but I don't think we have (or should have) any rule
> against asking FESCo or Council people questions at other times.
I think asking FESCo or
> It's too late for the questionnaire, yes, but... too late to ask???
>
> I mean... that would have been a good way to make sure everyone at
> least
> provided some answer, but I don't think we have (or should have) any
> rule
> against asking FESCo or Council people questions at other times.
>
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:19:53AM -0800, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> One should have proposed such a question during the period when such
> questions were being vetted. It is too late now that the questions asked
> were the decided, the responses made, and the election has begun. Perhaps
> you
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 10:06 Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
> support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
> gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
>
One should have proposed such a question
during the
Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you
support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on
gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge?
Fedora Council has already effectively stated that dist-git
infrastructure must remain open source, but has no
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