Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-07 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On pe, 01 loka 2021, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 PM Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Stephen John Smoogen writes: >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a >> > light weight sy

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-07 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On la, 02 loka 2021, James Szinger wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:42:02 -0400 Demi Marie Obenour wrote: How many of these can be solved by tunneling everything in a WireGuard mesh network, and using nftables rules to prevent spoofing? Sounds harder than setting up NIS+, which was supposed to s

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 02/10/2021 15:27, James Szinger wrote: These days, I think FreeIPA or Active Directory are the best choices, but both are complicated and possibly too much for a SO/HO, workgroup, or departmental sysadmin. AD has the advantage of supporting Windows, MacOS, and Samba; the last time I looked Fr

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 01:28:33PM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Yes, finally dropping the ypbind, yp-tools, and ypserv packages seems to > make sense in this context, as from my understanding they won't be of > any practical use anymore. +1. Time to say goodbye. -- Matthew Miller Fed

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 06 loka 2021, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am Freitag, dem 01.10.2021 um 09:31 -0400 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > mostly unmaintained - pam_uni

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am Freitag, dem 01.10.2021 um 09:31 -0400 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > > mostly unmaintained - pam_unix module (authentication with user > >

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-02 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:42:02 -0400 Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > How many of these can be solved by tunneling everything in a WireGuard > mesh network, and using nftables rules to prevent spoofing? Sounds harder than setting up NIS+, which was supposed to solve many of these issues 30 years ago,

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-02 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 10/1/21 12:54 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:42, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: >> >> Stephen John Smoogen writes: >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a >

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:51, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:28:38PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > > > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > > > > > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universitie

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:42, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > >> > light weight system which is simple to set up [...

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:28:38PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > > > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > > > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and ear

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 PM Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > >> > light weight system which is simple to set up [

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Stephen John Smoogen writes: >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a >> > light weight system which is simple to set up [...] >> >> For those people who like simple to set up and working sy

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > > light weight system which is simple to set up [...] > > For

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Stephen John Smoogen writes: > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > light weight system which is simple to set up [...] For those people who like simple to set up and working systems but are

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > mostly unmaintained - pam_unix module (authentication with user passwd) > with something using less bloated and cleaner code. This topic is > currently al

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Iker Pedrosa
Hi, I've asked internally for RHEL developers feedback about this topic and I'll post a summary of it in this email. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:39 PM Iker Pedrosa wrote: > Hi, > > I'm adding rhel-devel also to the mailing recipients to get RHEL > developers feedback. > > I'd also like to hear if

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
Hi, On pe, 01 loka 2021, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Hello, I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream mostly unmaintained - pam_unix module (authentication with user passwd) with something using less bloated and cleaner code. This topic is currently also discussed wi

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Iker Pedrosa
Hi, I'm adding rhel-devel also to the mailing recipients to get RHEL developers feedback. I'd also like to hear if there's any opinion on replacing pam_unix from Fedora and RHEL. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:14 PM Björn 'besser82' Esser < besse...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm current