Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20? Maybe ... maybe not. should i file a bug against the distribution? No .. this makes no sense. should i file a bug against Red Hat as upstream employer? Neither does this

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 19:47, schrieb drago01: Note: I didn't look at the bugs then please don't answer at all signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 19:47, schrieb drago01: Note: I didn't look at the bugs then please don't answer at all What I wrote does not depend on what the bugs actually are. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 19:54, schrieb drago01: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 19:47, schrieb drago01: Note: I didn't look at the bugs then please don't answer at all What I wrote does not depend on what the bugs actually are it does

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.04.2014 19:54, schrieb drago01: Am 03.04.2014 19:47, schrieb drago01: What I wrote does not depend on what the bugs actually are it does No. You are not entitled to escalate it to any employer unless you have a

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if someone asks why i called Lennart in #1072368 names We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not acceptable behaviour, and you need to knock it off. - ajax -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 20:00, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if someone asks why i called Lennart in #1072368 names We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not acceptable behaviour, and you need to knock it off. i know that - on the

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 20:00, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if someone asks why i called Lennart in #1072368 names We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 21:44, schrieb Martin Langhoff: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 20:00, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if someone asks why i called Lennart in #1072368 names We

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Bad behavior in response to bad behavior just feeds a positive feedback cycle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback ). The way to break out of it is for the person you control (namely YOU) to behave well. If others don't do so, things can calmly escalate and proper measures taken.

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 22:04, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: Bad behavior in response to bad behavior just feeds a positive feedback cycle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback ). The way to break out of it is for the person you control (namely YOU) to behave well. If others don't do so, things

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 The developer does not consider it to be a bug. You may disagree, but so far, you don't seem to have convinced him or any other systemd developers

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Richard Hughes
On 3 April 2014 20:00, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not acceptable behaviour, and you need to knock it off. I'm not the only developer considering unsubscribing from fedora-devel because of emails like the original email. Either the

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 22:32, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 The developer does not consider it to be a bug. You may disagree, but so far, you don't seem

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 22:32, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 The developer does not

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 22:37, schrieb Richard Hughes: On 3 April 2014 20:00, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not acceptable behaviour, and you need to knock it off. I'm not the only developer considering unsubscribing from fedora-devel because

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2014 22:46, schrieb Martin Langhoff: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 22:32, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20?

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:41:58PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 The developer does not consider it to be a bug. You may disagree, but so far, you don't seem to have convinced him or any other systemd developers or, well, anyone else. than

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:37:19 +0200 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 April 2014 20:00, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not acceptable behaviour, and you need to knock it off. I'm not the only developer considering