On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just
concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the hero testing doesn't
result in avoiding a slip most of the time. In the case of Alpha, that
was going
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 10:21 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com
wrote:
Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just
concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the hero testing doesn't
result in avoiding a
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On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 10:21 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com
wrote:
Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just
concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the hero
On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 10:02 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
These new rules don't ban preventing a slip, they attempt to eliminate
the unreasonable demands we're putting on our volunteer QA team *every
week during Freeze*. It's gotten out of hand and it's burning
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
These new rules don't ban preventing a slip, they attempt to eliminate
the unreasonable demands we're putting on our volunteer QA team *every
week during Freeze*. It's gotten out of hand and it's burning people
out.
The primary problem is that when we slip, there
Matthew Miller wrote:
Kevin, I'm missing something here. You're right that the QA hero runs
are done to prevent slips, but I'm not seeing the logical connection
between what Stephen suggests and _banning_ them. The idea is to make
them less likely to be necessary with the cooparation of
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 03:26:50AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can
do to try to avoid the hero testing treadmill that we've been on
during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually
fixing Blocker bugs
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can
do to try to avoid the hero testing treadmill that we've been on
during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually
fixing Blocker bugs until the day before the Go/No-Go meeting
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 11:17 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can
do to try to avoid the hero testing treadmill that we've been on
during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually
fixing Blocker bugs until
I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can
do to try to avoid the hero testing treadmill that we've been on
during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually
fixing Blocker bugs until the day before the Go/No-Go meeting and that
means that our QA
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:17:39 -0400,
Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
The idea here is to ensure that there is a clear engineering deadline in
order to guarantee that the QA team has a reasonable time period in
which to perform validation tests. I think this approach is too
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 10:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:17:39 -0400,
Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
The idea here is to ensure that there is a clear engineering deadline in
order to guarantee that the QA team has a reasonable time period in
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 14:44:06 -0400,
Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
Well, we learned during those questions that it's a matter of
coordination with the mirrors. They expect to have our master trees
prepared at certain times or they can't be mirrored out in time for the
Tuesday
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