On 10/8/14 8:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
On 08.10.2014 14:50, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info
wrote:
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[...]
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 08.10.2014 07:52:
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[…]
I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the
mantra 'its not ready' is not going to make it any more ready.
On 10/07/2014 11:04 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Gene Czarcinski
gczarcin...@gmail.com mailto:gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:
However, there are some things that could be done to make it
easier for those of us who want to make it easier to install
Fedora
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote:
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[...]
I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the
mantra 'its not ready' is
On 10/08/2014 02:28 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 08.10.2014 07:52:
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[…]
I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the
mantra 'its
On 08.10.2014 14:50, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info
wrote:
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[...]
2014-10-07 1:29 GMT+02:00 Matěj Cepl mc...@cepl.eu:
I mean what is shown on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pNh1n3seTg (I don't even know
what language it is), and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdjulcvhhuU (which is Spanish,
I guess).
Both are Spanish
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, there are some things that could be done to make it easier for
those of us who want to make it easier to install Fedora onto a btrfs
filesystem.
My point was that unless and until there is more support for
On 7 Oct 2014 16:05, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, there are some things that could be done to make it easier for
those of us who want to make it easier to install Fedora onto a btrfs
filesystem.
My
Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up
a skull crossbones. I have all my data backed up twice. But this is my
point... you don't say toxic and then simultaneously talk about proposing
it as the default file system on Fedora.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM,
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up a
skull crossbones. I have all my data backed up twice. But this is my
point... you don't say toxic and then simultaneously talk about proposing it
as
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Right... no single person is saying both things. We don't have
split-personality disorder here.
ROFL... Thanks for the clarification. Don't get me wrong though...I've
very excited about BTRFS; and looking forward
On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 13:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up a
skull crossbones. I have all my data backed up twice. But this is my
point... you don't say
Am 07.10.2014 um 20:05 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 13:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up a
skull crossbones. I have all my data backed up
The developers say that it isn't ready. In my opinion default status
means that all features are at least deemed usable. It would be extremely
confusing to tell the community BTRFS is the default but it is not safe to
use certain features. I want it to be ready too... but the fact remains
it
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 13:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up
a
skull crossbones.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 13:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote:
Thanks James... I am aware
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
[…]
I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the
mantra 'its not ready' is not going to make it any more ready. If suse
can identify a stable subset of btrfs
On 10/05/2014 08:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/05/2014 09:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will
On 10/06/2014 02:29 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
Now, there is another question which has not been voiced: what is the
plan for filessystems in Fedora (and by implication RHEL)? Is it
BTRFS? Or, perhaps is it LVM with XFS? IIRC, some time ago it was
stated that the plan was to move to BTRFS.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/05/2014 08:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10/05/2014 09:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino
On Oct 6, 2014 8:29 AM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/05/2014 08:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10/05/2014 09:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino
On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other stuff :). The
fact is I'm the only one who can drive btrfs as the default filesystem feature
in Fedora, and since I've left Red Hat that has become much less of an
priority for me. But my
On 10/6/14 8:50 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other stuff
:). The fact is I'm the only one who can drive btrfs as the
default filesystem feature in Fedora, and since I've left Red Hat
that has become
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other stuff :). The
fact is I'm the only one who can drive btrfs as the default filesystem
feature in Fedora, and since
On 10/6/14 7:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2014 02:29 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
Now, there is another question which has not been voiced: what is
the plan for filessystems in Fedora (and by implication RHEL)?
Is it BTRFS? Or, perhaps is it LVM with XFS? IIRC, some time ago
it was
On 10/6/14 9:26 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Obviously we aren't in xfs/e2fsprogs territory, but it'll fix 90% of
the problems and then the other 10% are just a matter of having an
example to work off of. Thanks,
Josef
Josef, just as a datapoint: after corrupting 32k random bytes on a 2G
image
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/6/14 9:26 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Obviously we aren't in xfs/e2fsprogs territory, but it'll fix 90% of
the problems and then the other 10% are just a matter of having an
example to work off of. Thanks,
Josef
On 10/06/2014 10:26 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other stuff :). The
fact is I'm the only one who can drive btrfs as the default
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/06/2014 10:26 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other
On 10/06/2014 08:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Let me answer from the position of a mere user. It's not clear to me
why and when users should switch to BTRFS or xfs or else, nor am I not
interested in using anything which would potentially endanger existing
installations (So far, reports I am
On 2014-10-06, 14:30 GMT, Eric Sandeen wrote:
IOWs, I'd like to see much more than because it can do snapshots and
checksums as the rationale; there are most definitely interesting things
that btrfs can do (or is working on doing), but as btrfs has evolved, so has
the rest of the Linux storage
On 10/06/2014 10:30 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
On 10/6/14 7:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2014 02:29 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
Now, there is another question which has not been voiced: what is
the plan for filessystems in Fedora (and by implication RHEL)?
Is it BTRFS? Or, perhaps is it
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit,
assuming
openSUSE has no major problems with it?
Hi
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
My plan is to push for F23, I'm still wrapping up some balance bugs and
some other issues we've found at work and then this will be my next
priority.
Thanks for the update. Is there a list of target bugs?
Rahul
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On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 08:42 +0200, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
Anyway, I recommend using only the core features (snapshots, raid1,
scrubs, balances, cp --reflink, etc...), because others have many
quirks, like send/receive which get corrupted from time to time, raid
5/6 which is work in
On 10/05/2014 09:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org
mailto:robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/05/2014 09:50 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014 11:32 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What
I'm happy with ext4. Just out of curiosity, though, how is XFS working out
on RHEL 7?
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Ian Kent ra...@themaw.net wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 13:18 +0200, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
El 2014-10-03 11:38, Steven Whitehouse escribió:
Hi,
I should also add (just
El 2014-10-03 05:31, Andre Robatino escribió:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as
the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit,
assuming
openSUSE has no major problems with it?
https://news.opensuse.org/2014/09/22/
I've been using
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine
juan.o...@miceliux.com wrote:
El 2014-10-03 05:31, Andre Robatino escribió:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit,
assuming
openSUSE has no
Hi,
On 03/10/14 07:42, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
El 2014-10-03 05:31, Andre Robatino escribió:
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit,
assuming
openSUSE has no major problems with it?
El 2014-10-03 11:38, Steven Whitehouse escribió:
Hi,
I should also add (just in case anybody gets the wrong idea!) that I
think it should definitely be made as easy as possible for anybody who
wants to evaluate running btrfs on Fedora, but it is far too early to
make it the default yet,
I
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 13:18 +0200, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
El 2014-10-03 11:38, Steven Whitehouse escribió:
Hi,
I should also add (just in case anybody gets the wrong idea!) that I
think it should definitely be made as easy as possible for anybody who
wants to evaluate running btrfs on
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit, assuming
openSUSE has no major problems with it?
https://news.opensuse.org/2014/09/22/
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