Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:25 PM, David wrote: > On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: >> >> No he didn't. >> > > > Sure he did. > > The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would > be, IMHO, someone that is using WinXP and has been t

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > > No he didn't. > Sure he did. The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would be, IMHO, someone that is using WinXP and has been told it is soon EOL. And doesn't want to buy a new c

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > My grandfather still believes those a

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora installations, each

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora >>> installations, each having different games/files. As he has also Cent

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2013 06:13 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know how to boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there are more than one because they ne

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > > My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora > > installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS > > menu > > item there having multiple Fedor

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know >> how to >> boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there >> are >> more than one

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know > how to > boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there > are > more than one because they never faced it as all the years before

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Clive Hills
Err aren't these *fedora* lists. We show the grub menu. *plonk* Clive On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 22.09.2013 18:00, schrieb drago01: > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > >> Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: > >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 20

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:00, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> I've been

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >>> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: >> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. >> In f

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> > I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. > In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11

hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11.1-200.fc19.i686, though that is probably a coincidence.