Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-21 Thread John M. Harris Jr.
On Monday, September 16, 2019 11:49:52 AM MST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 06:45:09PM +, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote: > > > Why exactly is systemd-sysusers needed here anyway? Do you not have a > > passwd and shadow file? > > systemd-sysusers is a tool to add en

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-18 Thread Troy Dawson
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:34 AM Daniel Walsh wrote: > > On 9/17/19 8:04 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > >> systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the > >> benefit of being able to create users on bootup. But, it pulls

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-17 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 9/17/19 8:04 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: >> systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the >> benefit of being able to create users on bootup. But, it pulls in the >> entire systemd infrastructure with all it's dependencie

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the > benefit of being able to create users on bootup. But, it pulls in the > entire systemd infrastructure with all it's dependencies. > > containers do not need systemd to run.

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 06:45:09PM +, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote: > Why exactly is systemd-sysusers needed here anyway? Do you not have a passwd > and shadow file? systemd-sysusers is a tool to add entries to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. It does a similar job to useradd and groupadd. Zbyszek

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-16 Thread John M. Harris, Jr.
Why exactly is systemd-sysusers needed here anyway? Do you not have a passwd and shadow file? On September 16, 2019 5:41:04 PM UTC, Lennart Poettering wrote: >On Mo, 16.09.19 09:45, Troy Dawson (tdaw...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the >>

Re: systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 16.09.19 09:45, Troy Dawson (tdaw...@redhat.com) wrote: > systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the > benefit of being able to create users on bootup. But, it pulls in the > entire systemd infrastructure with all it's dependencies. > > containers do not need systemd

systemd-sysusers versus containers

2019-09-16 Thread Troy Dawson
systemd-sysusers seeks to unify user creation[1]. It also has the benefit of being able to create users on bootup. But, it pulls in the entire systemd infrastructure with all it's dependencies. containers do not need systemd to run. They are trying to be as small as possible. But if a package in c