Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/15/2011 05:54 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when booting from a (slow) external (IDE) USB2 HD: - Fedora 15/i386: ca. 135 secs. -

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/15/2011 01:11 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: EOL of Fedora 15 is more than 6 months, and shouldn't have a beta release of systemd, if systemd enter in a early stage in Fedora 15 , should be upgradeable ... ( I think). So what is the point in have a early stage of a software, if we don't update

Re: Need systemd unit file help.

2011-09-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:48:16 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: I just took over the akmods package at RPM Fusion and one of the many BZ requests is to convert it to systemd. The current suggestion is: [Unit] Description=Builds and install new kmods from akmod packages After=syslog.target

Re: easy-karma: what is the FAS Password?

2011-09-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/26/2011 04:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Your Fedora Account System account password https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ is it OK to register here only for the use of easy-karma because i have a testerver-virtual-machine and would like to help pushing packages from updates-stable

Re: easy-karma: what is the FAS Password?

2011-09-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/26/2011 05:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: today installed the new systemd-build which addresses the issue of no progress while fsck at boot and did not find a way to add karma directly on koji (maybe this should be directly possible there)

Re: systemd and mounting filesystems

2011-10-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/05/2011 12:18 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 04.10.11 15:02, Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) wrote: I have a similar problem with some bind mounts over the root filesystem where systemd mounts them while the rootfs is still ro and hence they all wind up as ro until I remount them.

Re: convert init.d to systemd, how to determine which python is installed

2011-11-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/03/2011 03:10 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: In order to work on, e.g. RHEL6 in addition to Fedora, the old init script has: ... vercmd=from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print get_python_lib() py_dir=$(python -c ${vercmd}) exe=${py_dir}/hekafsd.py But the path is already

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/02/2011 12:25 PM, JB wrote: I experience random shutdown delays of ca. 2 min (testing F16 RC1 thru RC4, hd installation with LXDE). ... What else can I look at or debug and how ? Please boot with: log_buf_len=1M systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=kmsg Create an executable

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/03/2011 04:47 PM, JB wrote: Here you go: http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 The parameters log_buf_len=1M systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=kmsg were not on the command line, so this log does not contain all the information. Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote: http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown. systemd was asked to power off here: [ 979.583227] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus request: org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartUnit() on /org/freedesktop/systemd1 [

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:25 + (UTC) JB wrote: I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated and seem to be identical (if this is a problem, then systemd or NetworkManager related ?): That looks like some kind of a logging oddity, where the same messages reach the kmsg buffer

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: nslookup will only work for unicast DNS names, and hence will bypass any mDNS lookups. as you see nslookup does not bypass, it resolves so what component and how to tell leave my configuration in

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw something out of the window beginning with the systemctl ACTION service instead systemctl SERVICE action while i laughed over years about apples order of this in their

Re: daemon(7)

2011-11-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/12/2011 02:33 PM, Scott Schmit wrote: What package is that man page in? $ man 7 daemon No manual entry for daemon in section 7 Also, a google search for man 7 daemon, daemon(7), daemon man page, man daemon section 7, etc turns up nothing. As others already pointed out, it in the

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/21/2011 09:32 PM, Till Maas wrote: a recent kernel update[0] broke Fedora's ability to be a VirtualBox host, because asm/amd_iommu.h was removed. This is a part of the in-kernel API, not the kernel-userspace interface. The internal API can change at any time. External kernel modules can

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:58:41 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: We shifted a few files around and most likely your /etc/systemd/system/default.target link will now point into the void, in case anaconda wrote it. That's unfortunate, especially because people upgrading from Alpha will hit this

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:32:21 +0200 Michal Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:58:41 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: We shifted a few files around and most likely your /etc/systemd/system/default.target link will now point into the void, in case anaconda wrote it. That's unfortunate

Re: Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:44:47 +0200 Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: Does anyone know something about this issue? [...] === [ INFO: suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage. ] --- kernel/sched.c:616

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:53:51 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote: If I have to wait for the next release of Fedora (14 for example) to get KDE 4.5 then it's looking like the stable updates vision has made Fedora incompatible with what I need. KDE 4.5 has not been released to updates because it has known

Re: 15 or rawhide?

2010-09-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:43:06 +0200 Jiri Moskovcak wrote: If I remember it correctly there use to be a word Rawhide in /etc/fedora-release which ABRT use to determine is it's rawhide. So now, when it's obviously gone, what is the right way to determine if the release is rawhide?

Re: Dependency advice for /sbin/extlinux ?

2010-09-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:07:05 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: My questiomn is it better to use requires on syslinux for F13 (and maybe F12) and syslinux-extlinux going forward or should I require /sbin/extlinux allowing the same spec file to be used on F13 as on F14+ and take the hit of having to

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:14:28 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:45:11 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Ok - that's one problem - we sucks in selective updates and information for users. Other could be - change release scheme: 1. very similar to current

Re: poppler update to 0.15.0 (0.16 alpha)

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:02 +0200 Marek Kasik wrote: I plan to update update poppler in rawhide (Fedora 15) to new development version 0.15 next week (at Monday, October 4th). Changes against 0.14.x are: [...] Please check whether your package builds against this new version of poppler

Re: systemd and network service

2010-09-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:04:00 +0200 Patrick MONNERAT wrote: Until now (with upstart), my rawhide system started the network service but not the NetworkManager service. With systemd, neither of these are started by default. You may be seeing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630225 or

Re: poppler update to 0.15.0 (0.16 alpha)

2010-09-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:20:31 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: Michal Schmidt wrote: Is poppler_page_get_selected_text() the correct replacement for the old poppler_page_get_text() ? Yes, but you also need to change the y coordinates, see: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/commit/?id

Re: Review request please (required for PackageKit)

2010-10-01 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:47:50 +0100 Richard Hughes wrote: Could someone please review this package please: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631763 I need it as a dependency in the next version of PackageKit. I can bribe with beer if required. Thanks. I've taken it for review.

Re: Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command or a command is not found, it prints Command not found. then pauses for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of error[1]. How do I

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:24:30 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote: Firefox doesn't just include source code. It includes intellectual property with specific restrictions on what you're allowed to do with it. Did you use the term intellectual property in your query to Richard too? :-)

trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off somebody else brand recognition. I disagree - trademarks exist to protect the manufacturer from loosing profits because

Re: systemd service timeout with kdump

2010-10-08 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:21:03 -0400 Jon Masters wrote: It would seem that systemd employs some kind of arbitrary timeout (30 seconds?) 60 s Certain services, such as kdump.service might require some time to recreate their initramfs and will thus never be able to start normally (I'm very

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:50:00 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:19:08 +0200 Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote: In the policy I do not see as clear distinction between F(n) (current stable) and F(n-1) (old stable) as Jaroslav proposes. The closest to it is this sentence

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:43:16 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:  - remove any features Michal How do you guys update Gnome then? ;) Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. I have nothing to do with Gnome. But did Gnome ever

Re: replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

2012-10-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/09/2012 04:45 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/10/12 15:35, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: journalctl | fgrep? This one is pretty fine by me tbh. Sure, though having just tried that is took 33s to search about a months worth of logs instead of the 0.05s that greping the last months messages took ;-)

Re: replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

2012-10-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/09/2012 05:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Yes. Again, you're not the first person I've heard this from. Likewise, needing to fill out the .service extension. In current versions .service is implied if no extension is provided: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39386 Michal --

Re: [Feature Suggestion] UsrMove continued

2012-10-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 10.10.2012 14:25, David Howells napsal(a): Actually, the UsrMove has mucked up at least one way of doing things: we have/had RHEL customer(s) who kept /usr on AFS and were able to boot just using the stuff in /bin and /sbin. This is no longer a viable option with Fedora, and presumably

Re: Can systemd/PrivateTmp bug 851970 be fixed for F17?

2012-12-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 13.12.2012 22:52, Eric Sandeen napsal(a): I just spent too many hours re-triaging and re-discovering bug 851970, in which systemd + PrivateTmp does weird things with namespaces, thereby making it impossible to unmount filesystems under certain circumstances. 851970 was closed NEXTRELEASE,

Re: comps' standard group spring cleaning?

2013-01-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 10.1.2013 21:28, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): ok, I guess I could try again. Can we remove prelink? What does it get us these days? Has anything changed about prelink since the last time it was discussed here? prelink should not mess with running executables:

Re: Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:03 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: The service was not started after the configure period was expired. Was the timer unit active? What does systemctl status yourunit.timer show? Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:17 PM, John Reiser wrote: Another cause for concern by users is the maintenance record of systemd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841822 pungi can't create installable media with F17 + updates For about five months from July through December 2012 The Bodhi

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:04:13 +0100 Christoph Wickert wrote: This means that chainbuilds are no longer possible and this slows development down dramatically. Think of a feature like Xfce 4.8 with it's tight schedule [1]. E.g. we only have 8 days to build one of the pre-releases. When I made

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:41:44 -0500 Jon Masters wrote: I also suggest /considering/ implementing rolling updates rather than pushing everything to stable. By rolling updates, in this case I mean implementing a technical means (and this is tricky with mirrors) by which not every user will

Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-03-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:43:23 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: For the purpose of doing a RPM packaging workshop, I need a simple clear hello world type example using autotools. Can anyone point me to something suitable for the purpose? You mean GNU hello? :-) http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/

Re: Problem regarding to wlan0...

2010-04-13 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:12:17 -0300 Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote: Hello, An intriguing problem happened. I use a notebook with FC12 usually in WiFi environment. It never failed to detect wireless lans. Then I plugged it to eth0. Ok, it detected eth0 but now wlan0 is disabled I get an

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 08/28/2013 12:46 AM, poma wrote: On 19.08.2013 20:46, Kyle McMartin wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:35:16PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs? performance,

Re: systemd journal interaction with btrfs, unfixable corruption

2013-09-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/25/2013 06:35 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: There are some reports of VM images on btrfs being corrupted somehow (although I don't think it's related to balance, I could be wrong), and the solution is to set VM images to nodatacow. So I wonder if there's some behavior of systemd journaling

Re: SystemD service stop behavior

2013-10-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/23/2013 04:09 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Should systemctl stop foo.service stop all parent and child service processes? systemd allows this to be configured in the service's unit file. See man systemd.kill. glusterd.service uses KillMode=process. Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: x86_64 rawhide: Poweroff just shuts down

2010-11-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:05:20 -0300 Horst H. von Brand wrote: Try as I may, for some time now I can't get my machines to poweroff. The BZ you reported is waiting for info from you: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642347 Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:11:13 +0100 Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: [...] Have you reported it as a bug against the openldap package? Have you tried yum downgrade to the previous version? Michal -- devel

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:18:44 +0100 Michał Piotrowski wrote: How can I get information about all packages that provides init scripts? When I do rpm -qf /etc/init.d/* I get only information about already installed packages. Any magic switch to get informations about all packages from rpm

Re: issues with duplicate entries in /etc/mtab

2010-12-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:59:25 +0100 Rudolf Kastl wrote: As you can see with a current rawhide install you might end up with filesystems that have multible entries in mtab: http://fpaste.org/Z7Ne/ df also outputs the filesystems redundantly. If the system is to be changed and mtab is going

Re: Bluetooth service - was manually fixing IPs

2011-03-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:34:39 -0500 Ian Pilcher wrote: On 03/29/2011 03:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Can you paste the kmsg context of the starting please? [ 42.087581] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus activation request for bluetooth.service The bluez D-Bus service activates bluetooth.service

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/14/2011 11:14 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote: d) split it to more service files and make dependency there this would be incompatible change in configuration and hard to do, Hard maybe, but solvable. Incompatibility happens from time to time. That's what release notes are for. I can imagine a

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process order. I also looked at other services and here are some of them that needs fixing: - memcached - (I created

Re: systemd questions

2011-05-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 12 May 2011 15:28:54 +0200 Michal Hlavinka wrote: 1) does systemd support alternative to service sthd configtest or other special actions? No. 2) does systemd have support for conditions in service files? It seem it's not supported right now. Is there any plan for this? Can you give

Re: systemd questions

2011-05-20 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/20/2011 06:00 AM, Chuck Ebbert wrote: And you're going to go about it by removing something that people have been using for many years, replacing it with a vague promise of a better solution. The ability to run programs before shutdown has not been removed. Looks like you missed all the

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/10/2011 03:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: I understand your desire to replace everything by systemd. I really do. syslogd, klogd, mount, fsck, and a dozen other things I forget or don't know. You're exaggerating. Why does systemd link against libpam? systemd does logins now, not

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/10/2011 03:59 PM, Steve Clark wrote: On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the signal, dumps core and freezes, but does not exit. ^^^ So you just end up with a froze system instead

Re: systemd memory usage

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:55:14 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: Domain KindDetailCount Allocated size - --- --- -- uncategorized 2064 bytes5,370 11,083,680 Probably the SELinux file labelling

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:23:30 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: * now see screenshot That's probably https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709681 * WTF is there to relabel if started with selinux=0-kernel-param Although fedora-autorelabel.service is there, it does not imply that anything is

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:16:00 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not create /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] httpd: could not log pid to file /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid well this is the F14 build of Apache

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: and why does it STOP the boot-process at a point no network is available? Mounts from /etc/fstab are considered required unless they are marked with the nofail option. why does it start the relabel service i never see with selinux=0 and

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:44:36 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: but it shows that the widely use of systemd is too soon because this crap has to say FAILED and not OK in this case! Apparently the httpd initscript returned with exit code 0. A service can fail after starting successfully. Michal --

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:42:11 +0200 Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:36 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote: Why does systemd link against libpam? systemd does logins now, not /bin/login or gdm or ...? to implement PAMName= (man systemd.exec) I don't see any users

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:01:19 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.06.2011 02:56, schrieb Michal Schmidt: On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: and why does it STOP the boot-process at a point no network is available? Mounts from /etc/fstab are considered required unless

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-13 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:08:02 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: How is it systemd's fault that the user's fstab is invalid? A trailing slash in the mountpoint is not too common, but valid. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-13 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:26:46 +0400 Lucas wrote: Have you notice that they use Fedora like a toy, to play with, to test a new ideas, to try new things on it. Developers do not count it like anything serious - it is a toy for them. Today they decided that upstart is wrong and they need systemd,

Re: why does my systemd-services not work?

2011-06-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/16/2011 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: [Service] Type=fork Type= Configures the process start-up type for this service unit. One of simple, forking, oneshot, dbus, notify. Try forking, not fork -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: why does my systemd-services not work?

2011-06-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/16/2011 01:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: you can see the master-porcess and a child shortly in ps aux but after a few seconds systemd changes to deactivating (stop-sigterm) and is killing the processes ... [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service

Re: why does my systemd-services not work?

2011-06-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/16/2011 01:41 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: dbmail is doing something confusing systemd. Yes. Its startup sequence is wrong. It exits the original process immediately after the first fork(), before it finishes initialization and before the PID file is written. Upstream should take a look

Re: why does my systemd-services not work?

2011-06-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/17/2011 02:05 AM, Bob Arendt wrote: mpd forks and daemonizes itself, so the main pid dies. There is a misunderstanding about what main PID means. It is not the PID of the original process which forks and then exits. It should be the PID of the process of the running daemon. The one that

Re: F15: Reboot impossible after upgrade

2011-06-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: what happens here? - upstart is replaced by systemd Is this bug 707717? i hope a hard-reset is not the solution for this 'sync reboot -f' should work even in this case. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.

2011-06-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: It works for a single boot, then removes itself from: /lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service The file will get overwritten when a systemd package update comes. It's better to make a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system and edit that instead.

Re: cups service gone walkabouts?

2011-07-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100 Paul F. Johnson wrote: It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? * Wed Jun 29 2011 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com 1:1.5-0.9.rc1 - Ship systemd

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote: Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start' which calls a number of binaries and ultimately a system daemon. We could achieve something similar with systemd by

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:44:16 + (UTC) JB wrote: Let me take a shot at 2 examples of service files below. Are they correct setup-wise ? Will both examples be executed sequentially only ? 1. main-service-1.service: [Unit] Description=Main service 1 Requires= ... sub-service-1.service

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/11/2011 01:08 PM, JB wrote: Michal Schmidtmschmidtat redhat.com writes: First, sub-service-1.service and sub-service-2.service will be started in parallel. When they're running, main-service-1.service will be started by processing its ExecStart* commands sequentially. ... OK. Q:

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/11/2011 10:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: the same problem with the logic if there is a svcname.socket you have to do systemctl stop svcname.socket svcname.service or systemd wil fire up it again if you do only systemctl stop svcname https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714525

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-12 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/12/2011 10:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: in the real world processes like mysqld which are multi-threaded you can get a successfull return-code while the process is finishing his tasks which is my biggest problem with systemd the process itself knows that he is running fine, finish his

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/19/2011 10:23 AM, Lucas wrote: Right now systemd can't boot my system up, it hangs everything. You're hitting a kernel bug, don't blame systemd. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd vice SysV/LSB init systems - what next ?

2011-07-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/19/2011 07:59 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: From what I understand, I will now have to provide some systemd application that is coded in C? No. You'll just provide a unit file, which is a few lines human-understandable INI-like configuration file. Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: systemd vice SysV/LSB init systems - what next ?

2011-07-20 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/20/2011 03:49 PM, Kostas Georgiou wrote: This way the copied unit file never gets updated if the original one is updated, with the old sysv scripts you could do an ln -s foo newfoo and get the updates. You can use: .include /the/original/unit/file and only override the specific options

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:48:29 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: and the same guy who pushed pulseaudio in a total unuseable state to fedora instead finish his work and push it after that does is the maintainer of systemd - so maybe if we would not have the expierience how long it takes until the

Re: usrmove breaks on directory name conflict

2012-04-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/23/2012 05:45 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: cp: cannot overwrite directory /mnt/sysimage/usr/bin.usrmove-new/mkdir with non-directory Something failed. Move back to the original state. Rebooted back into F16. It looks like the issue was that I had a directory at /usr/bin/mkdir/. No idea how,

updates for bugs affecting multiple releases

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
Reindl Harald wrote: dear maintainers: please take a tighter look for which release bugs are reported and consider that the reporter has exactly this and only this version installed and is not very happy about a has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17 notify without finding any build

Re: Logwatch - looking for testers

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
Reindl Harald wrote: i do not speak about pushig them to updates-testing or even stable i speak about give me a koji-build which i can test Making the fix apply to the stable release often requires additional backporting effort. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Please add GNU id-utils to Fedora

2012-05-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/11/2012 10:14 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: Technically there is no need to change a name. In Debian, one can have two lid programs installed, one in /usr/bin and the other in /usr/sbin[*], so why not in Fedora? Technically there is no problem (at least until we decide remove the distinction

Re: Please add GNU id-utils to Fedora

2012-05-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/14/2012 10:11 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: Miloslav Trmač wrote: I'm pretty sure that naming conflicts in /usr/bin have happened before in Fedora, I'm not sure how they were resolved. Even in a relatively minimal system, I see many programs installed in both /sbin and /bin, though none seem

Re: rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/13/2012 12:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: how can someone find out if it is a debug-kernel? even the satble ones seems to have a ton of debug options enabled especially CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugStrategy to find what kernel config options to look

Re: nginx custom script location

2012-05-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/16/2012 12:21 AM, Jamie Nguyen wrote: /etc/init.d/nginx upgrade This has disappeared following migration to systemd, so my intention is to include an nginx-upgrade shell script to replace this functionality. My question is, where should this shell script go? In

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/24/2012 10:45 AM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine - Disable the readahead service: systemctl disable systemd-readahead-collect.service systemctl disable systemd-readahead-replay.service systemd should just do that by default (it disables it

Re: SystemD: When to start service for file system kernel module

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2012 09:23 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Here's my current service file for SPL: Lennart already pointed out a major problem, but here are some remarks about the unit file itself: [Unit] Description=Builds and installs new kmods for SPL Before=local-fs-pre.target When you are writing

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/24/2012 03:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: I also read here: http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/909/enabling-trimdiscard-on-f16-using-lvm-on-luks about using TRIM with LUKS. Since I'm putting an SSD in my laptop this is important because the laptop drive must be encrypted. So is F17 going to

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-01 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/01/2012 10:37 AM, Caterpillar wrote: Please apologize me, but if #820340 was not a showstopper, so which bug should be a showstopper? The bug * does not cause data loss * is easy to recover from * seems to be fixable with an update = Not what I'd call a showstopper. Michal -- devel

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/05/2012 03:52 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Systemd includes libudev.so.1, while the old libudev.rpm provided libudev.so.0. Therefore, all packages using udev need to be rebuilt. Here's a list of owners with packages that currently require libudev.so.0 in Rawhide. # repoquery --whatrequires

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 03:26 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: But if there's not going to be a systemd-libs subpackage, any issues you do have with this scenario are systemd bugs. We discussed it recently with Kay. We will split out a systemd-libs subpackage to be more multilib-friendly. That said, we are not

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 12:15 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: 3. yum *if you follow the instructions carefully* Those instructions include dracut doing unspecified magic. For other releases I'd agree with you and do a yum upgrade, but I must admit I don't dare try this time. Upgrading with Anaconda causes

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 05:39 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Come to think of it... shouldn't the rules that come with a package be in /lib/udev/rules.d? Yes, but add the /usr prefix: %{_prefix}/lib/udev/rules.d/ Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 05:52 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Does rpm handle binaries' colors everywhere, or just in selected locations? I'm especially curious about /usr/lib. I don't know the answer in the general case, but it definitely works for binaries in /usr/lib/systemd/. No conflicts are reported

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-07 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 04:25 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote: We will split out a systemd-libs subpackage to be more multilib-friendly. Done in systemd-185-4.gita2368a3.fc18. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-07 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/07/2012 10:33 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Yes, the invokation is specified in detail. There just isn't any documentation of what it actually does, I thought what convertfs does was quite clear. If you need to know the details how it does that, take a look at

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