Re: Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

2014-04-24 Thread H . Guémar
Heya ! Welcome here and I'm glad that you finally jumped onboard :) Feel free to ping me if you're looking for a sponsor. best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: The Forgotten F: A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-22 Thread H . Guémar
2014-04-22 16:10 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: To be honest, I'm fairly uncomfortable discussing this without Fedora Legal weighing in. I don't see any problem with re-visiting the decisions made along this path, but I also am pretty confident the folks who decided things

Re: Packaging of libdb-6+

2014-04-03 Thread H . Guémar
Since AGPL is fedora-compliant license, there's no blocker to get libdb6 into packages collection. Besides, libdb5 is still critical for many packages (like RM), until we get rid of it, I can only agree with your proposal. Maybe, it's still time to rename the current libdb = libdb5 and get newer

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos

2014-03-26 Thread H . Guémar
+1 Mesos is definitively an asset for the Fedora Cloud Product and would fit in some of our use cases. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Yet another bug caused by SELinux

2014-03-20 Thread H . Guémar
2014-03-20 12:22 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Hi, GHC (Haskell) was broken for (at least) over a year because of a bug in the workaround for stupid SELinux restrictions: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7629 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=907515 How

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and

Fwd: AFK notice

2014-03-02 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I'm back. 2014-02-22 11:19 GMT+01:00 Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de: Does that also mean, you're changing jobs? You mentioned something like you're at least interested in a jobs at Red Hat in the cloud area? Sadly enough, I haven't changed jobs, yet. I can't dwell upon this

Re: Creating local repo

2014-02-23 Thread H . Guémar
Use createrepo, its man page should be more than enough. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: State of Python 3 as default in Fedora

2014-02-12 Thread H . Guémar
About boto: Mitch Garnaat (upstream maintainer) is focusing on botocore and awscli, botocore is a rethinking of boto low-level plumbing which is python3 compatible. In the long run, boto3 will be based upon botocore and support python3. I have packages of botocore and awscli, i still have to

Re: advertisement in packaged software (e.g. Firefox)

2014-02-12 Thread H . Guémar
My *personal* opinion is that we should disable this kind of feature by default. Actually, unless it tracks users, i don't think that our guidelines forbids it, though it may influence our choice for the packages set installed by default. Has anyone tried to contact Mozilla Corporation about it

Re: State of Python 3 as default in Fedora

2014-02-12 Thread H . Guémar
About boto: Mitch Garnaat (upstream maintainer) is focusing on botocore and awscli, botocore is a rethinking of boto low-level plumbing which is python3 compatible. In the long run, boto3 will be based upon botocore and support python3. I have packages of botocore and awscli, i still have to

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-04 Thread H . Guémar
I'm not fond of keeping spins around when we're focusing on products. That gives the message that they are second-class citizens in Fedora. I'd rather define a process that allows current spins to become either sub-products or full-featured products when they meet a set of requirements (that is

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-04 Thread H . Guémar
It's also a negative message to the 1.4 k active contributors in fedora. Or do you assume that most of them are paid by RH which is unlikely. Don't forget that fp.o has been founded with two stakeholders: RH and the community H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread H . Guémar
I disagree about keeping spins around in the long term. Current spins: * hinders our communication (each spin is supposed to get proper coverage from marketing, ambassadors etc.), some users think that actually installing KDE requires reinstalling from the spin ! * prevents spins with a striving

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I think we should keep spins as long as we don't have a formal process to accept new products. Something like = proposal = crop (aka product-to-be) = validation = product When we'll have that, drop the whole spin thing, any spin that isn't fit to be a product should be reclassified as remix.

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I agree that we can't support more than a limited number of products. The point is to make a validation process sufficiently strict so we can guarantee that the would-be product would be sustainable. After all, if there are people willing to maintain it on the long term *and* our

Re: self introduction - hoping to be a packager

2014-01-24 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, thank you for taking the time to join us. If you want to speed things up, I'd suggest that you start doing informal reviews of other pending reviews and when you're done, link them to your review. Many sponsors will ask you that to assess your packaging knowledge anyway, just do it and do it

Re: Environment and Stacks PRD

2014-01-22 Thread H . Guémar
Ruby collections ? Did you mean SCL ? At the moment, the cloud WG hadn't discuss any other options. We're not the only stakeholders on that matters, these are topics requiring collaboration with other WG. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GIT development branches for packagers?

2014-01-15 Thread H . Guémar
/me wants the ability to push force on *private* branches 2014/1/15 Dridi Boukelmoune dridi.boukelmo...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 14.1.2014 21:41, Andrew Lutomirski napsal(a): I have some trivial cleanups I want to make to a

Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
only over my dead body i would start wrap more and more layers on top of already virtualized infrastructures Containers have little to almost no overhead, they bring more isolation (and i can't wait docker/selinux integration for more security), the FS layered approach allows to save spaces.

Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
My apologies if you felt i misquoted you, i didn't intend that. I do plenty of SaaS deployments at $DAYJOB, and i can easily pack hundreds to thousands // running containers on a single machine. Remember that Fedora is on the innovative side of the distro spectrum, yes vhost is the present, but

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer. Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3. By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), firefox is one of

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
2014/1/14 Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com In fact Fedora still ships GTK *1*. If we can't even get rid of GTK1, then talk of killing GTK2 seems wildly over optimistic. Regards, Daniel I'll quote myself again: at least from base images , not removing it from repositories. H. --

Re: Go packaging guidelines?

2014-01-13 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, there's a draft, i suggest that you start checking it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Go Taking a peek at Debian and OpenSuSE Go guidelines might be worthy: http://pkg-go.alioth.debian.org/packaging.html http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Go Best regards, H. -- devel

Re: Go packaging guidelines?

2014-01-13 Thread H . Guémar
My apologies for linking opensuse guidelines, i missed that point in your mail. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread H . Guémar
This discussion has now reached the phoronix point http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTU2MTE Has anyone filed any tickets so we could move forward or will we continue wasting time here ? Best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread H . Guémar
Congratulations for lowering the level of this discussion even lower than it already was ! H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Self Introduction

2014-01-05 Thread H . Guémar
Welcome in Fedora :) Out of curiosity, are you only packaging it or also developing it ? Anyway, it will be a useful library (no trolling about the rdrand instruction ;)) Best regards, H. Le 5 janv. 2014 21:14, Jan Tulak jtu...@redhat.com a écrit : Hi all I'm an IT university student. With

Re: Ambassadors places in new Working Groups

2013-10-28 Thread H . Guémar
2013/10/28 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com On 10/27/2013 11:34 AM, Nobrakal wrote: 2013/10/27, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com: On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:05:37 +0800 Christopher Mengcicku...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that most of members from the new formed groups are working

Re: Ambassadors places in new Working Groups

2013-10-28 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, Fesco is entitled to delegate their authority to anyone they see fit to do so. For instance, FPC members are designated by Fesco and rule packaging guidelines. Besides, the final decision was taken by Fesco. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Ambassadors places in new Working Groups

2013-10-27 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, Thanks for your concern on that topic, off course, fedora.next would be an half-assed initiative if we forget communication and community mgmt. And i'm pretty sure that everyone here agrees with you on that point. As for myself, I also intend to represent users inside the Cloud WG, so i'll

Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors places in new Working Groups

2013-10-27 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I think that coordinators and Fesco tried to integrate as much as possible community members. But truth is that most people who self-nominated were RH employees, so i'd rather say that RH employees even had an handicap. As for the Cloud WG -i can't speak for other WG-, we wish that

Re: python-urlgrabber, yum: blatant disregard for packaging guidelines and common sense

2013-10-08 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, Thank you for sharing that sad issue :( i wish that we could review regularly all packages but that's obviously not feasible. What is doable: * automated review of packages: git hooks ? regular mass fedora-review checks ? triggering a mail to a list ? our scm watchdogs do a great job at

[EOL] Retiring Gazpacho from F20+

2013-08-11 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, since Gazpacho hasn't been maintained fro years and it requires an older version of python-kiwi than currently packaged in F20, i'm retiring. It has been superseeded by Glade 3 and no other packages should require it. Best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out

2010-07-26 Thread H . Guémar
git branch -a will show you all branches (remote included) Until fedpkg is updated, to track any remote branch other than master (ie: F-13): git checkout -b f13 remotes/origin/F-13 Then, you juste have to do for switching: git checkout my_branch Best regards, H. -- devel mailing list

Re: Unsafe Django version being pushed to stable

2010-06-22 Thread H . Guémar
Just one thing, the title is misleading since Django 1.2.x is not an unsafe version. So what's the plan ? The update was also pushed in previous release like F12. Best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Take over package I approved

2010-06-09 Thread H . Guémar
I agree with Kevin on this one. Since Josef Radinger (fas: Cheese) is already a sponsored maintainer and the package legibly and properly accepted into packages collection, it should fall under the non responsive maintainer policy. We're already short on reviewers not to waste time over petty

Re: Request: Magit 0.8 packaging

2010-05-31 Thread H . Guémar
magit is already packaged as emacs-magit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/emacs-magit Check this with the maintainer, if you're interested by maintaining it, ask co-maintainership. best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 13 continuing the tradition of being an update monster

2010-05-11 Thread H . Guémar
And so what ? In OpenArena's case, last stable releases were: * 0.8.5: 02/23/2010 * 0.8.1: 10/31/2008 You can't blame OpenArena's maintainer for that, do you ? The same goes for Wesnoth, 1.8.1 maintenance release was issued 2 May so less than two weeks ago (1.8 was released 1st april !) Best

Re: Fedora 13 continuing the tradition of being an update monster

2010-05-11 Thread H . Guémar
It is not part of a default package set. Even if it were, blocking bugfixes in order to reduce updates size is nothing but stupid. We have presto/deltarpm for that (since these packages mostly contain unchanged binary data like images, it should work pretty well). What's the point in having new

Re: use MALLOC_PERTURB_ ... or lose

2010-05-05 Thread H . Guémar
This is useful enough that it is worth considering for inclusion in /etc/profile. during development cycle: +1 for stable/production release: not so much (users would hate us for that) regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Orphaning packages, retiring from Fedora packaging

2010-04-09 Thread H . Guémar
@Dennis: i appreciated your work on the Gtkmm stack. took : gtksourceviewmm;, libnotifymm, gstreamermm, libxml++, libgda, bakery, glom btw, libgnomedb is dead package as it's abandonned by upstream and most of it will be integrated in libgda-ui 4.2 Co-maintainers are welcome H. -- devel

Re: Java Bindings for libnotify

2010-03-15 Thread H . Guémar
frysk is long dead (and who was using it anyway ?), frysk developers are working on gdb/Archer now. http://sources.redhat.com/frysk/ I suggest that both frysk and old gnome java wrappers to be dropped from packages collection. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-09 Thread H . Guémar
Sounds pretty sensible. We should also keep in mind that one size does not fit all. While core and widely used packages should have a more conservative update path, some packages could benefit from faster release. karma mechanism + feedback integration in PK looks like a total win for the latter.

Re: scythia-0.9.3-5.fc14

2010-02-25 Thread H . Guémar
2010/2/25 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Well, if you had talked to us about it, we could have bundled the rebuild together with the big update, like we did for a couple other apps which needed rebuilds for some reason. But it doesn't matter now, I see your updates are queued for

Re: [Fwd: I'm leaving packaging on Fedora]

2010-02-19 Thread H . Guémar
I'll take me-tv, co-maintainers are welcome. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [Fwd: I'm leaving packaging on Fedora]

2010-02-19 Thread H . Guémar
looks like packages are not orphaned yet. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel