Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-14 Thread Dimitar Zhekov
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:27:20 -0800 Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote: Unless we're going to switch toolkits or someone is volunteering to maintain a fork, there's really no logical reason to avoid the inevitable, [switch to GTK+3] I've heard this a lot when Vista came out. And it

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Thomas Martitz
Am 13.11.2013 01:21, schrieb Matthew Brush: That's a fair[1] argument *if* those old distros aren't shipping GTK3 binaries/libraries (I can't say whether they are or not), otherwise it's a bogus point because then we're only talking about a very very small number of users who (all of these

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Lex Trotman
[...] I'm *really really really* tired of this topic. This comes up every now and then, with the same bulled points over and over and with no outcome at all (we're still at 2.16 after a couple of discussions even though nobody explicitly says we need to be at this specific version). Agree,

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 13.11.2013 00:15, schrieb Lex Trotman: This might be a MATE issue, I run both GTK2 and GTK3 in Mint Cinnamon and havn't seen theme issues. (default Mint theme, I'm too lazy to change it :) If by bookmarks you mean recently used then it definitely updates from both, but how accurately and

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 13.11.2013 00:48, schrieb Lex Trotman: Because many distros are more than 3 years old and still supported. Geany has users (and developers) in commercial and academic environments which will often be constrained to older (but still supported) versions of Red Hat, Scientific Linux, Suse

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 13.11.2013 11:46, schrieb Lex Trotman: Note, the windows nightly builder web page actually says its built against 2.14.7, does anyone know if thats right? At least some of the plugins will not. Cheers, Frank signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-13 Thread Yosef Or Boczko
בתאריך ד', נוב 13, 2013 בשעה 12:46 PM, Lex Trotman ele...@gmail.com כתב: [...] I'm *really really really* tired of this topic. This comes up every now and then, with the same bulled points over and over and with no outcome at all (we're still at 2.16 after a couple of discussions even

[Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 11.11.2013 10:31, schrieb Matthew Brush: The other way we could go is to just strive to be a proper, modern GTK+ application. By this I mean using stuff like GtkApplication, GtkApplicationWindow, GSettings, etc. The GTK+ stack has lots of cool stuff to make doing applications easier/better

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:06, Steven Blatnick steve8tr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm being a bit off topic, but one problem I have with having both Gtk2 and Gtk3 apps is that there have been settings and theme discrepancies. For example, I use Linux Mint MATE, and there have been some problems with

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:24, Steven Blatnick steve8tr...@yahoo.com wrote: My bad. It appears the bookmark discrepancy isn't between versions, but between caja and the file open dialog: Thats something inside GTK2/3 that provide the open dialog, nothing we can control AFAIK. [...] As for

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
Why to switch to other toolkits?! I not understand what don't good in GTK+. And also - why to keep GTK+ 2? GTK+ 3 avilable in all distro, also in older distro, it also work in Windows and also in Mac. this because GTK+ 3 released before almost three years. Because many distros are more

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Yosef Or Boczko
I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them distro? Geany need to go forward, and older distro will keep the old version of Geany same them keep the old version

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-12 03:48 PM, Lex Trotman wrote: Why to switch to other toolkits?! I not understand what don't good in GTK+. And also - why to keep GTK+ 2? GTK+ 3 avilable in all distro, also in older distro, it also work in Windows and also in Mac. this because GTK+ 3 released before almost three

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:53, Yosef Or Boczko yosef...@gmail.com wrote: I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them distro? Several reasons: 1. we don't have

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-12 04:23 PM, Lex Trotman wrote: On 13 November 2013 10:53, Yosef Or Boczko yosef...@gmail.com wrote: I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them