Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:44 AM, Joel Stanley wrote: > That would be cool. But I think there would as many, maybe more, cases > of batteries being removed, power cords yanked, and generators turning > off causing shutdowns than low-battery issues. Batteries getting removed with no AC should not be a v

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Joel Stanley
On Dec 17, 2007 5:55 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Joel Stanley wrote: > > JFFS2 has done an excellent job, at least on my xos, of keeping > > filesystem integrity after sudden power-offs. > > Write-back caching does not adversely affect filesystem *integ

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Joel Stanley wrote: > However, how will this positive effect be negated by data loss due to > loss of power? There will be times where power is unexpectedly > removed, and I would expect this scenario to be common with our user > base. The semantics of the UNIX filesystem have always been that wr

Re: LOLPC

2007-12-16 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > Your excellent photo builds upon a fine tradition Please do expand http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LOLPC accordingly. ;) -- Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Joel Stanley wrote: > JFFS2 has done an excellent job, at least on my xos, of keeping > filesystem integrity after sudden power-offs. Write-back caching does not adversely affect filesystem *integrity*. It makes a tradeoff by reducing flash write/erase frequency and

Re: Update.1 builds

2007-12-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 15, 2007, at 18:26 , Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > The location of the Update.1 builds has changed: > > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/ > > I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the > Changelog to point to it. > > http://dev.laptop.org/

New update.1 build 6

2007-12-16 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/update.1/build6/ -glibc-common.i386 0:2.6-4 +glibc-common.i386 0:2.7-2 -glibc.i686 0:2.6-4 +glibc.i686 0:2.7-2 -sugar-base.i386 0:0.1-0.6.20071113git.1a04bb7c71 +sugar-base.i386 0:0.1.1-1 -sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.2.2-0.40.20071114git.ea0764a9e9 +sug

New update.1 build 658

2007-12-16 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/update.1/build658/ -AcousticMeasure-6.xo +AcousticMeasure-7.xo -Analyze-4.xo +Analyze-5.xo -Chat-28.xo +Chat-31.xo -Journal-72.xo +Journal-79.xo -Web-76.xo +Web-79.xo +compat-libstdc++-33.i386 0:3.2.3-61 -libX11.i386 0:1.1.3-1.git20070822.olpc2 +libX11

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Joel Stanley
On Dec 17, 2007 4:46 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This makes a hell of a lot of sense. In a synchronous filesystem like > JFFS2, constant and repeated writes to the same single page will keep > pummeling the underlying flash needlessly It makes a hello of a lot of sense in the scen

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:40 PM, John Watlington wrote: > I'm curious how you measured this, as the underlying hardware only > supports a max. transfer rate of around 20 MiB/s... As Artem mentioned, UBIFS employs a write-back cache, meaning writes aren't flushed to the underlying medium immediatel

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, >> Vs. goal 2: UBIFS write speed is about 70MiB/second, because of >> the write-back support. IOW, UBIFS is similar to traditional FSes >> like ext2, which have internal buffers and make writes fast. To >> compare, JFFS2 write speed on XO is about 1.3 MiB/s, because it is >> alw

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote: > Vs. goal 2: UBIFS write speed is about 70MiB/second, because of the > write-back > support. IOW, UBIFS is similar to traditional FSes like ext2, which > have > internal buffers and make writes fast. To compare, JFFS2 write > speed on XO

Re: Project Hosting request: LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD

2007-12-16 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > ... >> This LiveCD should be very helpful going forward and seems likely to be >> easily maintained. Having it available on the OLPC servers would be a >> good thing and I'm strongly for having the project created (I suggested >> applying fo

WPA not working after upgrade to Joyride 1430.

2007-12-16 Thread Marcus Leech
I was running Joyride 1407, but upgraded to 1430. WPA appears to no longer function. I know that WPA broke around 1416, but I guess I assumed that it would have been fixed. But perhaps not? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 16, 2007 7:14 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The new-kernel-pkg script is part of mkinitrd :-( > > Please, allow me some time to come up with a straightforward > fix that doesn't require putting mkinitrd back in the builds. Can you please do this in your private builds,

imagequiz activity - trac

2007-12-16 Thread Chris Hager
hey, could someone add a trac-component for the imagequiz-activity, please? thx, - chris ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Bernardo Innocenti wrote: >> Pascal Scheffers wrote: >>> 1432 won't boot X on my B4. >>> >>> Lots of kernel modules not found at boot time. >> Hmm... I think it's my fault :-( >> >> I asked dilinger to remove the dependency on mkinitrd from >> the kernel because our ol

Re: DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Pascal Scheffers wrote: >> 1432 won't boot X on my B4. >> >> Lots of kernel modules not found at boot time. > > Hmm... I think it's my fault :-( > > I asked dilinger to remove the dependency on mkinitrd from > the kernel because our olpcrd thing does not even use it, >

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Artem Bityutskiy wrote: > but unfortunately have not got feedback, and I suspect one of the reasons is > that it is too difficult to boot UBIFS on XO. It would be great to have a demo OS image using UBIFS. I can't help for the partitioning thing, but if you need help with the process of rebuild

Re: Project Hosting request: LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 1. Project name : LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD >> 2. Existing website, if any : >> 3. One-line description : Live-CD build based on the LiveBackup >> Framework >> >> 4. Longer description : Live-CD's are created from offi

Re: Project Hosting request: LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD

2007-12-16 Thread Samy Boutayeb
Hello Wolfgang, I second your project. I am confident that the distribution of XO-LiveCDs to schools in places where the deployment of the XOs id not planned will help us to support the project. I have such a pilot project in mind, which should be carried out in some schools, here in France. How

Re: DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Pascal Scheffers wrote: > 1432 won't boot X on my B4. > > Lots of kernel modules not found at boot time. Hmm... I think it's my fault :-( I asked dilinger to remove the dependency on mkinitrd from the kernel because our olpcrd thing does not even use it, and it was dragging lots of useless depen

Re: Project Hosting request: LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD

2007-12-16 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 1. Project name : LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD > 2. Existing website, if any : > 3. One-line description : Live-CD build based on the LiveBackup Framework > > > 4. Longer description : Live-CD's are created from official OLPC > builds. >

Project Hosting request: LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD

2007-12-16 Thread WolfgangRohrmoser
1. Project name : LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD 2. Existing website, if any : 3. One-line description : Live-CD build based on the LiveBackup Framework 4. Longer description : Live-CD's are created from official OLPC builds. : Unmodified images

Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-16 Thread Eduardo Silva
That's was a part of the early/first tests, we are going to continue doing different test with another codecs and configuration. If you're interested, you can found the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5CfyOcWUGs best. Eduardo Silva http://edsiper.linuxchile.cl On Dec 13, 2007 4:25 P

Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 15:01 +0100, Pascal Scheffers wrote: > I get lots of: > > modprobe: FATAL Could not load /bib/modules/2.6.22-2007...5831/ > modules.dep: No such file or directory > > After a forced shutdown, it seems to have caused jffs2 corruption as > boot stops at Starting HAL daemon

Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Pascal Scheffers
I get lots of: modprobe: FATAL Could not load /bib/modules/2.6.22-2007...5831/ modules.dep: No such file or directory After a forced shutdown, it seems to have caused jffs2 corruption as boot stops at Starting HAL daemon with JFFS2 notice (1340): wrong data CRC in data node at 0x2135

DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread Pascal Scheffers
1432 won't boot X on my B4. Lots of kernel modules not found at boot time. On 16 dec 2007, at 04:15, Build Announcer Script wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1432/ > > -cpio.i386 0:2.6-28.fc7 > -dmraid.i386 0:1.0.0.rc14-4.fc7 > -findutils.i386 1:4.2.29-2 > -g

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
Artem Bityutskiy wrote: > ext Walter Bender wrote: >>> but unfortunately have not got feedback, and I suspect one of the reasons is >>> that it is too difficult to boot UBIFS on XO. >> I think you would be well served by making it clearer to people what >> the goals are of UBIFS relative to existin

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
Mitch Bradley wrote: > The main reason you have gotten no feedback is because we are ultra-busy > right now with mass-production and other issues. Yes, I understand this, and I do not complain at all. And I understand that it is too late to change the FS on XO now, and UBIFS is not ready for th

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
David Woodhouse wrote: > http://git.infradead.org/?p=openfirmware.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0b5a7b0c > > OpenFirmware boots from the partition named 'boot' in the RedBoot > partition table. The rest are yours to play with as you see fit. Thanks David, I'll take a look at this. -- Best Regards, Artem

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
ext Walter Bender wrote: >> but unfortunately have not got feedback, and I suspect one of the reasons is >> that it is too difficult to boot UBIFS on XO. > > I think you would be well served by making it clearer to people what > the goals are of UBIFS relative to existing systems, such as JFFS2, o

Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-16 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
Albert Cahalan wrote: > I don't see why you'd think so. > > Granted, the boot loader is in FORTH, but Mitch seems to get along > just fine with that and he has hundreds of kilobytes to spare. > The XO's boot loader sits in a 1 megabyte flash chip. > > Assuming that UBI really is good, native supp

Re: New joyride build 1420

2007-12-16 Thread Jani Monoses
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 9:39 AM, Jani Monoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Build Announcer Script wrote: >>> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1420/ >>> -sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.5-0.8.gite23a6f66eb >>> +sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.7.0-1 >> Where is