RE: [Its.an.education.project] What this list is about

2008-05-10 Thread Josue Freitas
That's right! I also think diversity of topics is a good approach for this list by now. Perhaps, we should only take care to keep in synch the message contents with the subject threads. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bernie Inno

Re: What this list is about

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:48 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> 2008/5/9 Alan Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> We are now several dimensions off topic ... >>> >> >> The Research mailing list is available for such discussions. > > I've expressed in the past

Re: Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, K. K. Subramaniam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 10 May 2008 4:40:30 pm Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> The Windows-based EEE PC is going to be cheaper than the Linux-based >> in Australia: >> >> http://apcmag.com/windowsbased_eeepc_cheaper_than_linux_one.htm

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'll be getting my hands on a one2onemate next week. I'll report back >> what I learn, but I wouldn't condemn it sight unseen. At the very >> le

Re: New joyride build 1935

2008-05-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.05.2008, at 18:49, Karl Ramberg wrote: > Now that activities no longer are included in the builds could Berts > update activities script be included ? > > http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update-activities.py > > Or some derivative (it cur

Re: Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 10 May 2008 4:40:30 pm Bert Freudenberg wrote: > The Windows-based EEE PC is going to be cheaper than the Linux-based > in Australia: > > http://apcmag.com/windowsbased_eeepc_cheaper_than_linux_one.htm > > I'd say this shows how scared M$ is ... I am not sure. They are two different con

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> a serious problem in the most underserved areas --- the price trend >> is for the second >> generation of the "low cost" laptops to head back to $500. >> The Asus 900 has a suggested list of $550 ? > > That's weird marketing... ASUS and Intel know they will have to > b

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 10 May 2008 5:07:22 am Jim Gettys wrote: > 1:1 is really *very* important, for many reasons, not the least of which > is the following: > > If a teacher cannot *rely* on a child having access to a computer for > teaching their class and/or homework, you are, in essence, asking them > to

Re: Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Sameer Verma
Bert Freudenberg wrote: > The Windows-based EEE PC is going to be cheaper than the Linux-based > in Australia: > > http://apcmag.com/windowsbased_eeepc_cheaper_than_linux_one.htm > > I'd say this shows how scared M$ is ... > > - Bert - > It isn't Microsoft that sets the price (as opposed to c

Re: New joyride build 1935

2008-05-10 Thread Karl Ramberg
Now that activities no longer are included in the builds could Berts update activities script be included ? http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update-activities.py Karl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@li

RE: 65-node simple mesh test (and counting... ;-)

2008-05-10 Thread Marcus Leech
Robert, this is great. Do you think there is any chance that we will be able to remotely use this testbed also? regards, Pol The plan is to make the lab machines reachable from the Internet. Our IS organization has agreed to do this, and has earmarked a raft of somewhat-older ethernet switch

[OT] The law (was Re: CIPA done)

2008-05-10 Thread Martin Dengler
We're OT here now. On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:41:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:06:03PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> [. . .] > >> It is sufficient if we clearly obey the law, and don'

Re: Wanted: Peruvian Folk Heroes.

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
Don't forget that we need lots of other people besides techies. We need help with * rying our software and telling us what we got right and wrong (You don't need an XO to do it.) * convincing politicians and school boards to put XO laptops with Free/Open Source software into their schools, and help

Re: 65-node simple mesh test (and counting... ;-)

2008-05-10 Thread Robert Withrow
We're trying to do that, but it will take a while to get there. Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > Quoting Robert Withrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> As you may know, but for the others also: Nortel is working to set up >> a 100 node test network of this nature (each node wired through >> switches

Re: 65-node simple mesh test (and counting... ;-)

2008-05-10 Thread Kim Quirk
This looks great, Poly. Can you please put this test plan and results into a wiki page, preferably linked somewhere off the main 'Testing' page. Thanks! Kim On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear devel, > > Here are the latest results from C

What this list is about

2008-05-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Edward Cherlin wrote: > 2008/5/9 Alan Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> We are now several dimensions off topic ... >> > > The Research mailing list is available for such discussions. I've expressed in the past my opinion of what I thought we should and shouldn't be discussing on the i.a.e.p. list. Af

Re: Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
The Windows-based EEE PC is going to be cheaper than the Linux-based in Australia: http://apcmag.com/windowsbased_eeepc_cheaper_than_linux_one.htm I'd say this shows how scared M$ is ... - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://l

Core activities (was Re: An OLPC Development Model)

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps. SJ, there are no 'core activities' that we ship. There is only > one security-privileged activity (Journal), which we currently ship in > the core build because (a) Sugar breaks otherwise, and (b) Rainbow's > activit

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi David, unfortunately I don't have time right now to enter again in this debate, but I wanted to do one comment: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > many people have pointed out the limitations of the journal approach, and > problems with not naming activites and fil

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Slight correction, I should have said GNU/Linux below. Bernie Innocenti wrote: Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Frankly, I don't see a logic difference between Negroponte talking > about extending the OLPC hardware to Windows (presumably to increase > recognition of the OLPC), and those talking about

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Frankly, I don't see a logic difference between Negroponte talking > about extending the OLPC hardware to Windows (presumably to increase > recognition of the OLPC), and those talking about extending Sugar > to a standard desktop (presumably to increase recognition of

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-10 Thread Erik Garrison
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:02:07PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I'm under the impression that the Sugar shell was specifically > designed to be EASY TO LEARN for people lacking Western education. > Yes, there are many who desire to run desktop applications (without > having to re-program them