Any cure for a washed out keyboard

The first XO casualty at Nepal's pilot schools a few days ago. A second grader washed his XO because it had gotten too dirty. Thankfully, the display, cpu and motherboard seem to be working fine. The keyboard is non-functional and the mouse is nominally functional. Anyone know a fix for a "washed

Re: Solar charging-personal versus central etc.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Stan. SWAN wrote: > Scott- thanks for the informative reply. No problem. > I've long been an enormous PV > fan- you couldn't really ask for a better technology- I concur. > and have become > even more so with global energy hikes, & the arrival of CIS/CIGS PVs. The uni-

Re: Collaboration Requirements

Dear Pol, Greg and Michael, There is so much going on here that it's difficult to approach. I mostly second Michael's comments. Though Greg obviously took a lot of his time to put these goals together, I think we are missing the target. It's good to have goals such as "40 XOs being able to chat o

Update-server - showing too many files?

Hi Scott, I'm looking some more at the update-server sw, and also looking at how rsync://updates.laptop.org behaves, and what olpc-update uses. Right now, the server publishes a top-level 'root' directory, which is what the client seems to be looking for, and also a number of other things that th

New joyride build 2233

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2233 Changes in build 2233 from build: 2232 Size delta: -1.97M -etoys 3.0.2059-1 +etoys 3.0.2068-1 -squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc6 +squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc7 --- Changes for etoys 3.0.2068-1 from 3.0.2059-1 --- + Allow to configure Squeaklet direc

Solar charging-personal versus central etc.

Scott- thanks for the informative reply. I've long been an enormous PV fan- you couldn't really ask for a better technology- and have become even more so with global energy hikes, & the arrival of CIS/CIGS PVs. Low voltage,long life & rugged ultrabright white LEDs are now threatening to make CFLs

Re: Collaboration Requirements

On 31 Jul 2008, at 01:07, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 05:21:34PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >> It was well promoted and teachers on the "sur" list have >> repeatedly asked for a definition of how to use it successfully. > > Insofar as we make no use of our own collaborative technol

Re: Collaboration Requirements

Dear Greg and Michael, It seems to me that we spend more time discussing things, instead of implementing them. The issue of scalability in large ad-hoc networks has been around for more than a decade and some pretty descent research results have been out there for several years now. Even if you

Re: Newer ds-backup-client RPMs for joyride...

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When releasing ds-backup revisions, please update documentation like > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ds-backup Looks like we've both updated the page :-) m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesti

joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

Dear world, This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group release notes, care of Charlie, are available at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2230 I'll push this announcement out further as discussed in last night's email as soon as I'm able.

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

"Bobby Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > recent joyrides include an activity updater which should help with this. > >> And you guys could get rid of the scary red warning on the wiki :) > > on which page? See the barking here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Update.1_Software_Release_Notes

Re: Collaboration Requirements

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 05:21:34PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >This is my first somewhat rigorous requirements definition for OLPC so >comments on style as well as substance are welcome. This feels very similar to an RFC. Take a look at RFC 2223 "Instructions to RFC Authors" and think about whether

Re: Newer ds-backup-client RPMs for joyride...

Martin, When releasing ds-backup revisions, please update documentation like http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ds-backup Sorry that I forgot as well! Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: suspend oddities

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > so, while i still think there may be bugs (in that i think i > get keypresses even when i've told the system that keypresses > shouldn't wake me up -- but i'll doublecheck that), there's > clearly a terminology problem: "suspend" and "sleep" have too > many meanings, an

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

Hi Stan, On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Stan. SWAN wrote: > Scott: Thanks for this solar net one info, which (as an electronic > guru) impresses me. Thanks. We have been refining it a bit also. > Are those PV arrays 600 Watts?? Yikes- allow > ~US$3k for these alone (about the annual salary for a teacher

Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:05:18PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >> a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows >> whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode, >> switch to different tabs, etc.

2X zoom X display possible?

I need to install a win32 program for my father to use on his XO. At 1200x900 resolution the text is **way** too small for him to read. However, it is very clear :-) In some previous discussion on the XO bug tracker ssb22 managet to use x11vnc to get a 2X zoom going for the XO and WINE. In

Re: suspend oddities

talking with richard just now i realized that there's been a bit of disconnect, at least on my part, in understanding our current suspend design. i was complaining that keypresses were arriving while my machine was suspended. richard pointed out that it's meant to work that way. my use-case was

Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

S Page wrote: > Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > >> Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in >> poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB. > > I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on > poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2). Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. >

New joyride build 2232

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2232 Changes in build 2232 from build: 2230 Size delta: 0.14M -kernel 2.6.25-20080728.1.olpc.a3851e734bcee1b +kernel 2.6.25-20080730.1.olpc.85e8ce3752b87a2 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/anno

Collaboration Requirements

Hi All, I wrote up some collaboration requirements to help get us to a definition of collaboration support that teachers can use in schools. This is my first somewhat rigorous requirements definition for OLPC so comments on style as well as substance are welcome. I will take one round of comment

Re: [sugar] Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

On 30 Jul 2008, at 15:59, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:49:23PM -0700, S Page wrote: >> I'm not so sure. If you want more testing, just publicize as >> above. I >> didn't hear about candidate builds until I started following devel >> and >> figured out the wiki's green "La

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

Scott: Thanks for this solar net one info, which (as an electronic guru) impresses me. Are those PV arrays 600 Watts?? Yikes- allow ~US$3k for these alone (about the annual salary for a teacher in many downtrodden areas). Double this for the battery bank! Maintenance? IMHO such a solar scheme is p

RE: Touch pad

You wrote: We (the techteam) have some questions: - Are there any XOs for which mouse performance is worse since the kernel upgrade? - What are the average environmental conditions (humidity level, dust, temperature) when you are testing the new driver? Please answer at your leisure. __

New update.1 build 709

http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build709 Changes in build 709 from build: 708 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2d16-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e12-1.olpc2.unsigned -olpc-utils 0.74-1.olpc2 +olpc-utils 0.74-2.olpc2 --- Changes for bootfw q2e12-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d16-1.olp

Re: suspend oddities

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The process is the same. If you get a wakeup from gamekey then the > > keypress should follow. Turn on your ps2 debugging and verify that > > indeed you do not get key events. > > when you say "should follow", you mean "as implemented", i assume? > > i'd argue

Re: suspend oddities

On Jul 30 2008, at 15:45, Richard A. Smith was caught saying: > Deepak Saxena wrote: > > > >The gamekeys go through PS2 so I'm guessing the EC is queeing that event > >for > >us. I can reproduce the same sort of behaviour with by switching to > >console on the XO, sleeping via /sys/power/state on

Re: suspend oddities

smith wrote: > Deepak Saxena wrote: > > > > The gamekeys go through PS2 so I'm guessing the EC is queeing that event > > for > > us. I can reproduce the same sort of behaviour with by switching to > > console > > on the XO, sleeping via /sys/power/state on serial console, and then > >

Re: suspend oddities

Deepak Saxena wrote: > > The gamekeys go through PS2 so I'm guessing the EC is queeing that event for > us. I can reproduce the same sort of behaviour with by switching to console > on the XO, sleeping via /sys/power/state on serial console, and then hitting > a keyboard key to wake up. On wakeup

Re: suspend oddities

deepak wrote: > On Jul 30 2008, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was caught saying: > > since i'm not sure which of these are known/expected/ > > alreadyfixed/beingignored, here are a few things i've noticed > > with suspend. i'll trac any that people think should, or comment > > existing trac if

Re: suspend oddities

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:56:01AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: > On Jul 30 2008, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was caught saying: > > - gamepad keypresses aren't ignored during suspend. [...] > However, I just did the following here: [...] > And I don't see the character on console, which means i

Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows > whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode, > switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the > "capture"-button the whole thing basica

Re: suspend oddities

On Jul 30 2008, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was caught saying: > since i'm not sure which of these are known/expected/ > alreadyfixed/beingignored, here are a few things i've noticed > with suspend. i'll trac any that people think should, or comment > existing trac if appropriate. > > disclaimer:

suspend oddities

since i'm not sure which of these are known/expected/ alreadyfixed/beingignored, here are a few things i've noticed with suspend. i'll trac any that people think should, or comment existing trac if appropriate. disclaimer: some of this testing has been on my g1g1 machine, running 2159, XFCE (not

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 14:50 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: > >> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 23:32 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: > >> > The open source pro

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 14:50 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 23:32 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: >> > The open source project Gobby also uses this sort of who-wrote-what >> > text highlighting, SJ and I ha

Re: [Testing] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

Sound like quite good points to me, can you make sure we have proper tickets for those? Thanks a lot, Tomeu On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been running joyride-2225 with what I believe to be the latest > versions (as per the up

Re: Feedback from deployment lead

Hi Greg, thanks for sending this one. Would be a good step forward if we found the way to connect field feedback to the testing team, so they can enter proper tickets that can track real improvements. I really hope that 9.1.0 will bring serious improvements regarding robustness of the datastore.

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 17:09 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > Please ensure that you have filed tickets for each and every one of them > > What good will that do? We track issues through trac. Doing it through email is harder when you have a lot of email and a lot of issues. Filing a ticket keyw

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03:52PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03:41AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > >Hi Daniel, > > > >We need a list of anything that might "break" an activity. > > The list of things that have to work in order for an activity > (particularly a networke

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03:41AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >Hi Daniel, > >We need a list of anything that might "break" an activity. The list of things that have to work in order for an activity (particularly a networked one) to "work" is larger than the memory and comprehension of any individua

Activity versions in Activities/G1G1

Hi Scott, You edited the [[Activities/G1G1]] page to change Chat from 35 to 42 (http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Activities/G1G1&diff=0&oldid=147844). However the version of Chat in the G1G1 Activity Pack linked from that page is 35. There is unclarity on the talk page too: http://wiki.lapt

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

Greg, On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03:41AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > What I think we need is a list of all APIs relevant to activity > developers (maybe libraries too?). You can parse it however you want. The potential size of that list is in the order of all software libraries

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > What I think we need is a list of all APIs relevant to activity > developers (maybe libraries too?). You can parse it however you want. > The two resources we do have, that I know of, are: 1. http://wiki.lap

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

Hi Daniel, What I think we need is a list of all APIs relevant to activity developers (maybe libraries too?). You can parse it however you want. We need a list of anything that might "break" an activity. Give us whatever you have, even if its not the full story. Hopefully we can put together

Re: Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:49:23PM -0700, S Page wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: >> 5. Separately, I wish we were receiving even more volunteer testing. Can you >> help out? Fame, glory, and the undying gratitude of hundreds of thousands of >> children await you! > > Background: I'm just a G1G1. I d

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:02 -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Michael and team, > > Can we get documentation of all API changes (since 708 and 656) that > affect activities ASAP? Are you talking about sugar APIs, or APIs for other library components present on the system which some activities may use?

Re: What is the best way

bert wrote: > > On 30.07.2008, at 14:16, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > > > ... to connect the XO to a projector? > > > > Are there USB vga/etc cards known to work to with the XO? > > See > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Remote_display the sisusbvga.ko module would be another module (al

Re: What is the best way

On 30.07.2008, at 14:16, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > ... to connect the XO to a projector? > > Are there USB vga/etc cards known to work to with the XO? See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Remote_display - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists

What is the best way

... to connect the XO to a projector? Are there USB vga/etc cards known to work to with the XO? Thanks Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.or

Stability (was Re: TuxPaint woes)

On 30.07.2008, at 13:20, Greg Smith wrote: > On when the code is stable and frozen enough to do final regression > testing of activities: > > Michael, > > Can we track that as a milestone? Is that "code freeze (a.k.a. > package-level change control)" which is targeted (pending confirmation > e-ma

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

Hi Edward, > > Given the essential need to charge in regions totally devoid of mains > > power (in our case inland New Guinea),the solar quest is naturally > > pretty crucial to the whole rollout. It's otherwise akin to being > > given a 4WD Mercedes, but with no ongoing fuel supply > > Yes, I

Re: TuxPaint woes (John Gilmore)

Hi John and Michael, Thanks to John for raising these concerns and sticking with us after a frustrating first two experiences. SimCity has good traction in the user base and its a very high priority activity for us. On when the code is stable and frozen enough to do final regression testing

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

Hi Mikus, John, Michael et al, Thanks for testing some activities and noting that many are broken. This will certainly be a user problem! There was a thread on it two weeks ago: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/016501.html We didn't close it well. I can't speak effectively for