Re: sugar start-up profiling

On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 17:27 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:15 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Problem: sugar starts up slowly on the xo > > > > Tests were ran on an xo after a clean joyride-2181 install plus > > sucrose's activities. > > > > A graph of the ending

Re: identifying which builds are signed

>> I have a general question. I'm going to be helping some Ship.2 G1G1 >> users (without developer keys) to perform off-line-upgrades of their >> systems. Currently I have to "data mine" through the wiki to verify >> which builds are "signed" (and can be "applied" from an USB stick). > > Things

Re: Your journal is empty

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed > ctl-alt-erase in order to "restart" Sugar. Both times. when Sugar > came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'. > > If "unwanted empt

Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:05:18PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >> >>> a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows >>> whatever the

Re: Terminals

Michael Stone writes: > One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity > is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of > root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps reviving the > Quake Terminal for the root-terminal role and isolati

Re: Terminals

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:08:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > michael wrote: > > One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity > > is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of > > root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhap

Your journal is empty

Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed ctl-alt-erase in order to "restart" Sugar. Both times. when Sugar came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'. If "unwanted emptying of the Journal" were to be experienced by others (in addition to me), then I

Re: Terminals

michael wrote: > One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity > is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of > root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps reviving the > Quake Terminal for the root-terminal role and isolating t

NetworkManager complaining about missing /sbin/restorecon

Hi devel@, In joyride-2231, NetworkManager's complaining about missing /sbin/restorecon: -bash-3.2# grep restorecon /var/log/messages | tail -1 Aug 1 02:57:13 xo NetworkManager: nm_spawn_process(): nm_spawn_process('/sbin/restorecon /etc/hosts'): could not spawn process. (Failed to execute c

Re: Terminals

Note that I am currently working on a (somewhat large) patch which will not turn off isolation for anything outside share/... (that is, the activities in ~/Activities will all be isolated). This will close the gigantic security hole where anything named "Terminal" or "Journal" was not isolated. ___

Re: Terminals

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Walter Bender wrote: > Curious as to what occasions need root access within X Windows? Maybe > the console is enough? if the console font has been changed to something more readable it can be used. there end up being a surprising number of things where advanced users end u

Re: Terminals

Curious as to what occasions need root access within X Windows? Maybe the console is enough? -walter On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity > is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it c

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

+1 There are some activities clustered together here from the list of git projects: http://dev.laptop.org/~sj/git-list.txt SJ On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for > all Sugar activities? Even

Terminals

One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps reviving the Quake Terminal for the root-terminal role and isolating the Terminal activity proper

New joyride build 2237

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2237 Changes in build 2237 from build: 2236 Size delta: 0.00M -rsyslog 3.16.1-2.fc9 +rsyslog 3.18.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for rsyslog 3.18.1-1.fc9 from 3.16.1-2.fc9 --- + upgrade -- This mail was automatically generated See http://de

Please help test our new weekly test build!

We are thrilled to announce a new joyride-weekly test image, joyride-2230, valid until Wednesday, August 6. Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing while we still have time to fix issues you might find! Our specific interest

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

Let me try to prioritize this list, from what I've experienced in the field (Haïti): "Benjamin M. Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. The datastore > 2. OS Updates > 3. File Sharing > 4. Activity Modification > 5. Bitfrost > 6. Power management I'd reorder this into: 1. Power management

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you can't just "share a file", you have to share an "activity", ... Right. Idea for a new activity: Candy Bag. You open a bag (i.e. you launch the CandyBag activity), then you put journal entries in it, then sharing this activity means that your frie

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo would be nice. Thanks! Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I find interesting is that as well areas where contributions are > quite easy to d

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

Thanks Yokoy! I will definitely try that out. I figured that it was the impurities in the water that screwed up the keyboard not necessarily water itself. Does it have to be a large quantity of water or just enough to fully submerge the keyboard? Perhaps I need a lot of water in order to get enou

New joyride build 2236

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2236 Changes in build 2236 from build: 2233 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-update-control 0.4-1 +sugar-update-control 0.5-1 +olpc-contents 2.4-1 +olpc-update 2.13-1 -olpccontents 2.3-1 -olpcupdate 2.12-1 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0

Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

Jim Gettys wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Marshall wrote: >> S Page wrote: >>> Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >>> Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB. >>> I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on >>> poppler-0.

Re: New joyride build 2232

Hi, The changelogs currently come from 2 places: - Changelog / *.changes files in public_rpms dropboxes on d.l.o - koji, by querying http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?match=glob&type=build&terms= I think the kernel rpms are not build in Koji. If I look at the Changelog in dilinger's hom

status of 8.1.1 and now 8.1.2 ?

== 8.1.1 == Is 8.1.1 done? It was due June 7. According to , the only thing left is for "The champion" to sign off; according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7014 , the only thing left is "finalize". If/when 8.1.1 is done, should all G1G1 use

RE: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 21:37 +1000, Martin Edmund Sevior wrote: > > Thanks Tomeu and Eben. Yes, we'll need to expand the abiwidget api. > I'll look to do this if I can can get sugar-jhbuild to work again. That, or we could just add an 'EditMethod', so we can invoke it using a 'well known' functio

Re: Trac default milestone

Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:21:23PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> Because I'm not confident someone will regularly take care of >> assigning the not-specified tickets, and I don't want lose useful >> bug reports because of that. I've been reading all the coming in

Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Marshall wrote: > S Page wrote: > > Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > > >> Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in > >> poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB. > > > > I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on > > poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2). Ev

Re: Adding new post script fonts to the OLPC

We do not run the font server (fs), nor do we believe it is wise to think so. The old server side font mechanism in X are very much on the way out (as in, I haven't seen one on my regular laptop screen in a year or more). What application are you running that needs the old font system?

Re: Trac default milestone

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:21:23PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Because I'm not confident someone will regularly take care of assigning > the not-specified tickets, and I don't want lose useful bug reports > because of that. I've been reading all the coming in tickets in the last > fe

Re: Trac default milestone

Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:53:26PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Also I'm not convinced "not specified" as default component is a good >>> idea, unless we have someone taking care

Re: Trac default milestone

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:53:26PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also I'm not convinced "not specified" as default component is a good >> idea, unless we have someone taking care of triaging that component. >

Re: Trac default milestone

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm don't feel strongly either way but it's clearly important to Marco. > My concern is that we have a lot of unresponsive module maintainers. The only way to get around the unresponsive maintainers problems is to get othe

Re: Trac default milestone

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:48:32PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Trac default milestone is currently 8.2. Is that a good idea? We are >> trying to punt down the Sugar 8.2 bugs, but with these default the >>

Re: Trac default milestone

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also I'm not convinced "not specified" as default component is a good > idea, unless we have someone taking care of triaging that component. Can we go back to require the submitter to provide a component? In many ca

Re: Trac default milestone

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trac default milestone is currently 8.2. Is that a good idea? We are > trying to punt down the Sugar 8.2 bugs, but with these default the > list keep growing. I'd prefer to go through the list of unassigned > bugs e

Re: identifying which builds are signed

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > You wrote, regarding "nominated" 8.2 builds: >> In a few weeks, once we're more confident in the >> sustainability and security of the build, then we'll publish an official >> candidate build with cryptographic signatures that mark

Re: sugar start-up profiling

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:15 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem: sugar starts up slowly on the xo > > Tests were ran on an xo after a clean joyride-2181 install plus > sucrose's activities. > > A graph of the ending part of the boot process can be found at: > http://dev.laptop.org/~r

Re: New joyride build 2232

>Indeed. I did ask a while ago where the changelog entries actually >should come from, and I got no reply AFAIR. The ones in the >public_rpms dropboxes cover only a small portion of packages. The other place they come from is the RPM-level changelogs encoded in the spec file. rpmdev-diff + a b

Re: [sugar] joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

On 31.07.2008, at 17:59, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 31 Jul 2008, at 14:44, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> On 31.07.2008, at 15:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> >>> On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: >>> Dear world, This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test

Re: [sugar] joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

On 31 Jul 2008, at 14:44, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 31.07.2008, at 15:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: >> >>> Dear world, >>> >>> This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group >>> release notes, care of Charlie, are available at

Kernel API Wishlist

Deepak, I don't think I'm going to be able to attend LPC but Chris suggested that I offer you some wishlist items in case you meet someone who would be interested in them. (I'm chipping away at them in my free time, but at that rate... :) Anyway, here's my grab-bag of items: a) The filesystem

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

Yes, a slideshow would be good. (with a link to a demo for anyone who wants to test on their own :-) SJ On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Tarun Pondicherry < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi SJ, > > I'll put it up on the wiki. The live version is still a bit volatile, is a > video or slideshow oka

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

Great idea... Robson had a similar one. SJ On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > you can't just "share a file", you have to share an "activity", ... > > Right. > > Idea for a new activity: Candy Bag. You open a bag

re: Newer ds-backup-client RPMs for joyride...

Hi Guys, I'm starting to think we may have a major feature here which we can talk about in 8.2.0! Is there any more documentation on it? Can someone write an explanation of how this works and what is needed (e.g. XS v0.3) and put that in the 8.2.0 release notes at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/R

Re: Collaboration Requirements

Hi All, Thanks a lot for all the comments. I tie up a single response and I edit the requirement as needed. Let me know if I don't respond to something you think needs further discussion. I put the updated version in the wiki 9.1.0 Collaboration requirements section: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:40:39AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > It's not that important anyway. It just occurred to me that the > dependancies management challenge could be somehow dealt with by > delivering a set of default activities. I'm not aware of any > software distribution drawing such a stro

Re: [sugar] joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

On 31.07.2008, at 15:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: > >> Dear world, >> >> This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group >> release notes, care of Charlie, are available at >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ >> Test_Group_Release_Not

Notes from 7/29 Release Meeting(s)

> 1. We're going to begin nominating this week's 'joyride-weekly' tomorrow at > 0900 EDT. If you have risky changes you want to contribute, please provide > them > _after_ we deliver our nomination. If you want to help more peoples' changes > make the deadline, then please help smoke-test joyrides

"automated test results" links on http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/buildxxx/{devel_ext3, devel_jffs2} broken.

Hi, Could somebody please fix the "automated test results" links for the current joyride builds on xs-dev.laptop.org ? You now only get a tinderbox catch-all page. I had a hard time to find the joyride test results until this list pointed me to tinderbox.laptop.org. I know you guys have lots o

Re: joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: > Dear world, > > This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group > release notes, care of Charlie, are available at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ > Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2230 olpc-update thinks that build doe

Re: activity bar

Only the activities which you "favourite" by clicking on the star-icon in the list view show up in the ring-/freeview-screen. http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/sandbox/Home#List_view "1. Activity entry Each entry in the list has: a star (for marking those activities that will appear in the othe

Re: activity bar

Victor, please refer to Walter's draft for the updated Sugar documentation for more information on the re-designed home-view: http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/sandbox/Home Hope that helps, Christoph On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Victor Lazzarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hello everyone

activity bar

Hello everyone, I have upgraded to the latest joyride and installed the activities with Bert's script. One question remains: is the activity bar gone, or is somewhere else now? Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth _

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

Hi Guys, I hear you that defining dependencies and APIs is a tough challenge. As someone else mentioned, many projects do it effectively so we can do it better too. I'm not partial to any particular parsing of the data. Maybe the activity developers have an opinion... The key points are: 1 -

Re: New joyride build 2232

On 31.07.2008, at 11:23, Morgan Collett wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:07, Simon Schampijer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Morgan Collett wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 23:44, Build Announcer v2 >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/st

XOs on AP unpingable after wakeup/startup

I've got 4 C2s on my access point running joyride - currently 2200 and 2210. If I power them on, or wake up from a power-button-induced sleep, and make sure they are on my AP, they will see each other with salut (multicast) but not be able to connect to my jabber server or be pingable from other ho

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:34:13 +0545 Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Yokoy! I will definitely try that out. > > I figured that it was the impurities in the water that screwed up the > keyboard not necessarily water itself. > > Does it have to be a large quantity of water or just en

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:42, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for > > all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo > > would be nice. >

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

I haven't had a soaked olpc (yet), but most of the other devices that hand these kind of problems where much simply cured by : - being taken apart - carefull cleaning with a cloath, especially for the tip of flat cable going to a FPC connector which some dirt (oxidation? short circuit? isolant?)

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

> A good alternative is ethanol I mean ethanol >96% , better 99,* % > > Best regards, > yokoy > -- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

Hi, the best thing you could do is to put the device (keyboard) into a bathtub with distilled water. No joke! after one or two days the electrolyte ingredients will be washed out. After that drip of the water and be patient one or two days. The device has to be very dry before you should activa

RE: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

-Original Message- From: Eben Eliason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/31/2008 2:29 AM To: Tomeu Vizoso Cc: Martin Edmund Sevior; Walter Bender; OLPC Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Ball; Sugar Mailing List Subject: Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO On Wed, Jul

Adding new post script fonts to the OLPC

Hi , I am trying to use an application which can use only postscript fonts but not truetype fonts on the olpc. So I copied some postscript font files from a normal fedora 7 machine onto the olpc under /usr/share/fonts/local and then added the paths to xfs using chkfontpath command. Then restar

Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:42, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for > all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo > would be nice. I've raised the idea a couple of times to have a mailing list specifical

Re: New joyride build 2232

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:07, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Morgan Collett wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 23:44, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2232 >>> >>> Changes in build 2232 from build:

Re: New joyride build 2232

Morgan Collett wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 23:44, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2232 >> >> Changes in build 2232 from build: 2230 >> >> Size delta: 0.14M >> >> -kernel 2.6.25-20080728.1.olpc.a3851e734bcee1b >> +kerne

Re: Collaboration Requirements

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:32:47PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > Dear Greg and Michael, > > It seems to me that we spend more time discussing things, instead of > implementing them. ... > Even if you pick one randomly you are guaranteed to scale by a whole > order of magnitude bette

Re: Collaboration Requirements

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:47:19AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 31 Jul 2008, at 01:07, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 05:21:34PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > >> It was well promoted and teachers on the "sur" list have > >> repeatedly asked for a definition of how to use it succe

Any cure for a washed out keyboard

The first XO casualty at Nepal's pilot schools a few days ago. A second grader washed his XO because it had gotten too dirty. Thankfully, the display, cpu and motherboard seem to be working fine. The keyboard is non-functional and the mouse is nominally functional. Anyone know a fix for a "washed

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you can't just "share a file", you have to share an "activity", ... Right. Idea for a new activity: Candy Bag. You open a bag (i.e. you launch the CandyBag activity), then you put journal entries in it, then sharing this activity means that your frie

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo would be nice. Thanks! Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I find interesting is that as well areas where contributions are > quite easy to d

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo would be nice. Thanks! Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I find interesting is that as well areas where contributions are > quite easy to d

Re: New joyride build 2232

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 23:44, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2232 > > Changes in build 2232 from build: 2230 > > Size delta: 0.14M > > -kernel 2.6.25-20080728.1.olpc.a3851e734bcee1b > +kernel 2.6.25-20080730.1.olpc.85e8ce3

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

It's already been two days and it is quite dry. the keys don't respond at all. The touchpad works but only responds to heavy pressure. On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 19:14 +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first XO casualty at

Re: Any cure for a washed out keyboard

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first XO casualty at Nepal's pilot schools a few days ago. A second > grader washed his XO because it had gotten too dirty. > > Thankfully, the display, cpu and motherboard seem to be working fine. > The keyboard is non-f