Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Paul writes > if you disable that client, is the system UI response normal? I do not have a straightforward answer. I am seeing MUCH TOO MUCH variability in whether I see the sluggishness or not. So far, when I have paused the ever-running client, I've been seeing normal system UI response. B

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Ixo X oxI
External swap area sounds cool. How does one set it up? I'll give it a whirl. -iXo On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 14:55, Andrew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/8/8 Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I should also add another case. > > > > I have a customized install of firefox (download tarba

Re: Wellington smoketest notes - joyride-2270

2008-08-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are actually still going through a few more tests. Switched from mesh to a standard 802.11g NAT'ted network (via a Macbook sharing its Internet) and followed up with network tests. - Tested ogg download and play with

Wellington smoketest notes - joyride-2270

2008-08-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
Big thanks to Brenda, Tim, Leonie, Callum, Tabitha & Stephen! Overall score - 2 confirmed bugs, 11 new bugs filed, several curious families educated on OLPC arcana. HW: 4 MP, 1 B4 SW: All on Joyride-2270 + default activities Network: all in Simple Mesh over channel 1 Other: several USB-key type d

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:20:23AM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: > Please file tickets even if you haven't had time to get further info > yet. Thanks for testing! No time for that, I already submitted three other tickets already on unrelated problems, my purpose in posting to the mailing list was to

All activities (except Terminal and Journal) are always LTR despite the locale

2008-08-08 Thread Khaled Hosny
After updating to one of the recent joyride builds (can't recall the exact build, but somewhere in the last 2 days) all activities now are left to right; toolbar is LTR etc..., despite of the local. Only Terminal and Journal are RTL. Also, activities now doesn't respect the default sans-serif font

New update.1 build 711

2008-08-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build711 Changes in build 711 from build: 710 Size delta: 3.41M -kernel 2.6.22-20080807.1.olpc.4c233ce8ed8f9cb +kernel 2.6.22-20080808.olpc1.4c233ce8ed8f9cb +dmraid 1.0.0.rc14-4.fc7 +kpartx 0.4.7-11.fc7 +libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 +libdhcp4client

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Burgess
2008/8/8 Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I should also add another case. > > I have a customized install of firefox (download tarball, alias to run out > of /home/olpc). Sometimes when I run Firefox, and forget about the limited > memory size... after about 6 tabs of pages, the whole systems "mo

Re: Anyone seen this error when using sugar-launch?

2008-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
Here's the relevant part: > File "/usr/share/sugar/services/shell/activityregistryservice.py", line >90, in FindActivity >if name.find(key) != -1 or bundle_id.find(key) != -1: >UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 2: >ordinal not in range(128) The code in ques

Anyone seen this error when using sugar-launch?

2008-08-08 Thread Faisal Anwar
Hi, I just installed build 708 on an XO and also installed the standard set of activities using the script provided at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bert%27s_script. I can launch activities using their UI icons, but when I try to launch activities from the terminal using sugar-launch, I get the error

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread dwainegarden
I test all the time and have never noticed this behavour. Regular release or joyride? Dwaine --Original Message-- From: C. Scott Ananian Sender: To: Mikus Grinbergs Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button Sent: Aug 8, 2008 11:43 AM On Thu, Aug

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Ixo X oxI
I should also add another case. I have a customized install of firefox (download tarball, alias to run out of /home/olpc). Sometimes when I run Firefox, and forget about the limited memory size... after about 6 tabs of pages, the whole systems "molasses effect"... I suspect due to memory swappin

Re: comments on late joyrides re: rt performance

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Burgess
On 8/8/08, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, this is exactly the issue described on the ticket. It is the cause > of some of the audio problems. I am in the process of getting patched > hal into the builds which fixes this. I already commented on the ticket but perhaps it's suitable

New faster build 2273

2008-08-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2273 Changes in build 2273 from build: 2272 Size delta: -0.13M -hal 0.5.11-2.fc9 +hal 0.5.11-2.olpc3.1 -hal-libs 0.5.11-2.fc9 +hal-libs 0.5.11-2.olpc3.1 -sugar-presence-service 0.82.1-1.fc9 +sugar-presence-service 0.82.2-1.fc9 --- Change

Re: [sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 8 Aug 2008, at 16:21, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 15:45 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: >> Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the >> application stops starting). > > Please file a ticket. Already there, this one is down to package changes (Numeric in this

New joyride build 2273

2008-08-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2273 Changes in build 2273 from build: 2272 Size delta: 0.00M -hal 0.5.11-2.fc9 +hal 0.5.11-2.olpc3.1 -hal-libs 0.5.11-2.fc9 +hal-libs 0.5.11-2.olpc3.1 -sugar-presence-service 0.82.1-1.fc9 +sugar-presence-service 0.82.2-1.fc9 --- Change

Re: suspend on 'idle'

2008-08-08 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > One method also to keep the XO from going into 'keyboard-idle' > mode... Sometimes what I do, is hit one of the 'modifer' keys on > the keyboard to keep the machine awake. (i.e. Hand, Fn, Ctrl, > Shift, Top row function keys, etc) > I wonder if there's a method to simula

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 8 Aug 2008, at 15:01, Eben Eliason wrote: > 2008/8/7 Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Some more 2 1/2 cents. >> Frequently, when I see such un-responsiveness.. likely I have >> clicked on an >> activity icon twice by habit, they are both competing to start up. > > Are you reproducing th

New faster build 2272

2008-08-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2272 Changes in build 2272 from build: 2269 Size delta: 0.13M -sugar-journal 96-1.fc9 +sugar-journal 97-2.fc9 -sugar-presence-service 0.81.4-1.fc9 +sugar-presence-service 0.82.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for sugar-journal 97-2.fc9 from 96-1.fc9

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For instance - the XO has been sitting there for a minute or more > (in Terminal). I want to key in a command, so I start typing. > Nothing changes. I do *NOT* know if my XO is alive or dead. > Suddenly (after one or mor

Re: comments on late joyrides re: rt performance

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 21:10 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > Here an other observation which might have something to do with this. > In joyride-2266 (booted from SD card) I noticed that there is a lot of > logging of the traffic to the EC. > Just do dmesg and you see a burst of about 18 olpc-ec: m

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 15:45 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the > application stops starting). Please file a ticket. > What started with 2263 is that when the system wakes the display acts > strangely. What I see is similar when there i

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:59 +1000, James Cameron wrote: > 2263 hung on a B4 and MP several times while I was testing this evening, > the mouse would not move, keyboard did nothing, the display would be > static, and no ping response. > > Things that I did that could induce it: > > - running a pyg

New joyride build 2272

2008-08-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2272 Changes in build 2272 from build: 2269 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-journal 96-1.fc9 +sugar-journal 97-2.fc9 -sugar-presence-service 0.81.4-1.fc9 +sugar-presence-service 0.82.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for sugar-journal 97-2.fc9 from 96-1.fc9

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread pgf
i wrote: > mikus wrote: > > The sluggishness is not consistent. I particularly notice that at > > times, it can take more than three seconds before the XO responds to > > an alt-tab (after a period without any key presses). This XO has a > > background (nice 19) task running on it whi

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/8/7 Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Some more 2 1/2 cents. > Frequently, when I see such un-responsiveness.. likely I have clicked on an > activity icon twice by habit, they are both competing to start up. Are you reproducing this on joyride builds? I'm pretty sure that there has been

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread NoiseEHC
2263 works for me. Something fixed the system crash made by Record I have experienced on 2230 (so I will not file a ticket for that). Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the application stops starting). What started with 2263 is that when the system wakes the displa

Re: comments on late joyrides re: rt performance

2008-08-08 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 08:57:06PM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: > On Aug 07 2008, at 21:45, victor was caught saying: > > I will keep testing, but I expect that this will also have an impact > > on TamTam. I wonder if more 'aggressive' RT preemption patches > > (Ingo Molnar's ones come to mind) woul

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread pgf
mikus wrote: > > This looks a *lot* like how an XO acts when Suspend is on. See if the > > power LED has gone off and just blinks occasionally -- that's how you > > really > > tell whether you are in suspend. Power LED on steadily = no suspend. > > Power LED off most of the time, blinking o

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread James Cameron
2263 hung on a B4 and MP several times while I was testing this evening, the mouse would not move, keyboard did nothing, the display would be static, and no ping response. Things that I did that could induce it: - running a pygame program http://quozl.linux.org.au/k74/ (happened twice, out of t

Re: New Game Activities: COBBLE, Space Tag and Cell Management

2008-08-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Mark, I'm interested to hear feedback from people here, but you may be able to get feedback from teachers and kids with a little more work. The most communicative user base is in South America. You can get the most feedback by sending your request to http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-su

Re: Sugared Wine project begins

2008-08-08 Thread Walter Bender
I'm including the Education list in a hope we can get some feedback as to what class of MS-Windows programs are a high-priority. I cannot imagine Word would be high on the list, but there are undoubtedly many applications people are looking for... -walter On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:52 PM, John Gilm

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> This looks a *lot* like how an XO acts when Suspend is on. See if the > power LED has gone off and just blinks occasionally -- that's how you really > tell whether you are in suspend. Power LED on steadily = no suspend. > Power LED off most of the time, blinking on = you're suspended. Thank yo

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Walter Bender
> The bottleneck is in the XO hardware that all of the tests run on (and > the number of tests we choose to do), rather than in hardware that we > can upgrade. I wonder if there is some way to parallelize this across multiple XOs? Not ever XO running every test? Presumably multiple XOs are not the

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Ixo X oxI
:-) ok... 8.3.0 then.. lol. -iXo 2008/8/8 Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 8/8/08, Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Some more 2 1/2 cents. >> >> Sometimes when the storage is full (or near full), response time is down. >> (check in Terminal with 'df' and see how mu

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 07:33, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> is there a better / handier way? > > On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big "Software > Update" window popped, and said "do

Re: suspend on 'idle'

2008-08-08 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/8/8 Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One method also to keep the XO from going into 'keyboard-idle' mode... > > Sometimes what I do, is hit one of the 'modifer' keys on the keyboard to > keep the machine awake. (i.e. Hand, Fn, Ctrl, Shift, Top row function keys, > etc) > > I wonder if the

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On 8/8/08, Ixo X oxI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some more 2 1/2 cents. > > Sometimes when the storage is full (or near full), response time is down. > (check in Terminal with 'df' and see how much free disk space you have.) If > downloading large amounts of data, or in process of updating,

Re: Requesting test help for OFW development release

2008-08-08 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On 8/6/08, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Gilmore wrote: > >> ok wifi my-ssid > >> ok flash http:\\dev.laptop.org\~wmb > >> > > > > This didn't work; it required saying: > > > > > >> ok flash http:\\dev.laptop.org\~wmb\q2e12f.rom > >> > > > > > > It is

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread John Gilmore
> On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big "Software > Update" window popped, and said "do you want to install all these > activities". > > Colour me impressed. Bravo! > > Now, who's coded this up? I am keen on devising a way to fetch the > activities locally (if an XS is prese