Re: A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to go the route of 'signed content lives in directories', > then please examine the programs in olpc-contents >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-contents > and let us know in what way they can be improved befor

Re: XS inconvenientes

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/8/12 Henry Vélez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Estoy guiándome por las indicaciones del Wiki en : > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Configuration_Management y estoy utilizando la > versión 163. Necesitamos mas datos :-) Que comandos - exactamente - le estas dando al XS? > Pero no he podido ver desde l

XS inconvenientes

2008-08-11 Thread Henry Vélez
Hola a todos los de las listas. He venido trabajando en la configuración del servidor y hasta le momento no ha sido exitosa. Estoy guiándome por las indicaciones del Wiki en : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Configuration_Management y estoy utilizando la versión 163. La instalación (ok) El cambio de

Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-11 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Tried your test for 2866. Works as advertised for me (joyride-2280). Could not test the mesh, since I have only one XO. At startup, when showing the frame, you see first the attempt to connect to the mesh, then it is replaced by the AP icon and information. I like the signal strength indication and

Re: A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're more interested 'signed content lives in archives', then > JAR-signing might be for you! JARs look good but there don't seem to be decent cli tools to deal with them (can fastjar sign and check sigs in packages?)

New joyride build 2286

2008-08-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2286 Changes in build 2286 from build: 2285 Size delta: 0.00M -olpcsound 5.08.92-7.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-8.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate lo

New faster build 2285

2008-08-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2285 Changes in build 2285 from build: 2284 Size delta: 0.00M -olpcsound 5.08.92-3.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-8.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

olpc-update and split-horizon dns

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, If the lease server proper is not in use (for XOs with very long leases), olpc-update will never use the local school server. Talking to Wad earlier today, he mentioned that at one stage using a split horizon DNS that masks updates.laptop.org was part of the plan. It's trivial for me to

Activity updater - work with XS?

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, Now that we have olpc-update able to use a local XS, I'm wondering whether we can get activities on the local server too. The old activity-update doesn't exist any more (at least at git://dev.laptop.org/users/cscott/activity-update ), so my guess is that the code has been absorved into

New joyride build 2285

2008-08-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2285 Changes in build 2285 from build: 2281 Size delta: 0.00M -PolicyKit-olpc 1.1-1.fc9 +PolicyKit-olpc 1.2-1.fc9 -olpcsound 5.08.92-3.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-7.olpc3 -dbus-python 0.82.4-2.fc9 +dbus-python 0.83.0-2.fc9 -libvolume_id 124

Re: A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * What use cases are you trying to support? Insert a usb stick with content that is OK'd by the regional NOC (network operations centre) for execution/installation on the XS. > * What threats obstruct supporting those

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:28PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >>> - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) >>> and resuming with the power button, eth0 is down and does not come >>> up automatically. Manually bringing it up with ifconfig and >>> assi

Re: [Server-devel] Need help: mounting usb devices on headless machines

2008-08-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:52 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't know about Fedoristas, but on Debian and derivatives this is what >> I do for a backup disk that is identified by UUID and then backed up to >> ... all when plugged in ... beep ... wait for rs

New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi, I'm looking for joyride testers with 10 or so minutes willing to pull down a git clone and temporarily use it for their Sugar session to test these behaviors: http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/2866/2866_screenshot_10.png http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/2866/2866_screenshot_12.png I'd be very i

New faster build 2284

2008-08-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2284 Changes in build 2284 from build: 2281 Size delta: 0.00M -PolicyKit-olpc 1.1-1.fc9 +PolicyKit-olpc 1.2-1.fc9 -dbus-python 0.82.4-2.fc9 +dbus-python 0.83.0-2.fc9 -libvolume_id 124-1.fc9.2 +libvolume_id 124-2.fc9 -udev 124-1.fc9.2 +ude

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ton van Overbeek wrote: > - The polling of the EC every 30 seconds has disappeared. At least > it does not show up in the dmesg output. > - More important, the touchpad seems to behave much better. May be > related to the reduced polling of the EC. That makes sense if previously you were se

Re: inhibiting suspend via dbus

2008-08-11 Thread John Gilmore
> The problem with the pure hereustic approach is that there may > be times when we don't have enough knowledge about the system state > and more importantly the user's behaviour to really make a decision > without information from the application. For example, if I am streaming > music on my

Re: Mic insertion detection

2008-08-11 Thread John Watlington
Arjun, I don't know how to access it from a script, but on production units the AC'97 codec does sense whether anything is plugged into either the microphone or headphone jacks. The microphone jack is wired to JS0, accessible through the Jack Sense register in the AC'97 spec. (The headphone

impressions

2008-08-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) > and resuming with the power button, eth0 is down and does not > come up automatically. Manually bringing it up with ifconfig and > assigning it the same ip4 address as before allows to continue > the external ssh session

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

2008-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2008, at 15:13, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel > failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to > download at the time. Please be sure you are using joyride-2266 or > later, and that you have suspend turned o

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, >> - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) >> and resuming with the power button, eth0 is down and does not come >> up automatically. Manually bringing it up with ifconfig and >> assigning it the same ip4 address as before allows to continue the >> ext

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Aug 11 2008, at 11:09, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: > - TamTam sound seems to work OK for me. No hic-ups or noise. Odd given that we have yet to commit the changes for #7603. > - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) > and resuming with the power button, eth

Re: inhibiting suspend via dbus

2008-08-11 Thread pgf
smith wrote: > Deepak Saxena wrote: > > On Aug 09 2008, at 19:35, Mikus Grinbergs was caught saying: > >> One possibility -- OFW already tests for "is the XO plugged in?". > >> Maybe Ohm can test for that, and decide that suspend is not needed > >> when the battery is fully charged, and is n

Re: [sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-11 Thread Sameer Verma
Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Kevin Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> want to update them. I tell it to install/upgrade them all. It says >> "Downloading" but the progress bar never progresses, and it appears to >> be doing a whole lot of nothing. >> > > FWI

Re: inhibiting suspend via dbus

2008-08-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: > On Aug 09 2008, at 19:35, Mikus Grinbergs was caught saying: >> One possibility -- OFW already tests for "is the XO plugged in?". >> Maybe Ohm can test for that, and decide that suspend is not needed >> when the battery is fully charged, and is not being drained. > > I don

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Paul writes > if you disable that client, is the system UI response normal? Here are some observations from looking at 'top': When the 100%-CPU-using client was NOT running, I did not observe 'top' showing anything unusual. I did notice 'olpc-update-query' running (presumably from 'cron') -- I

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:09 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > I used olpc-update yesterday to put joyride-2280 on my XO-1 running > Update.1 (build 708). > > Here are a few observations after some playing with joyride-2280: > - Bounce loads now, but does not have sound. Might be an issue > with t

First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Ton van Overbeek
I used olpc-update yesterday to put joyride-2280 on my XO-1 running Update.1 (build 708). Here are a few observations after some playing with joyride-2280: - Bounce loads now, but does not have sound. Might be an issue with the reintroduced pygame.mixer and SDL mixer. - TamTam sound seems to wor

Re: builds for releases

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 08:28:40AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> The next major feature release after 8.2.0 is called 9.1.0. >> >> FYI An overview of release names, status and schedules is at: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases > >That webpage says what the releases are - I wish it said more

Re: A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Stone
Martin, Thanks for your note. Unfortunately, it left me with more questions than with answers. Some questions include: * What use cases are you trying to support? * What threats obstruct supporting those use cases? * What trust structure are you trying to create and how does it mi

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

2008-08-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to download at the time. Please be sure you are using joyride-2266 or later, and that you have suspend turned off. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL

Re: Sound on the OLPC

2008-08-11 Thread pgf
shivaprasad wrote: > Thanks for the information. I did a modprobe snd-pcm-oss and everything > started working perfectly well. Thank you very much. that's good news. i'm now curious as to why the module didn't get loaded automatically, but that's a different topic. paul > > Thanks > Shiva

builds for releases

2008-08-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> The next major feature release after 8.2.0 is called 9.1.0. > > FYI An overview of release names, status and schedules is at: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases That webpage says what the releases are - I wish it said more about why they are. The 'Primary Objective' for each release says wh

Re: Sound on the OLPC

2008-08-11 Thread shivaprasad javali
Thanks for the information. I did a modprobe snd-pcm-oss and everything started working perfectly well. Thank you very much. Thanks Shivaprasad On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello shivaprasad: > > > I am trying to port an application from a normal Fedora syst

Re: Sound on the OLPC

2008-08-11 Thread pgf
hello shivaprasad: > I am trying to port an application from a normal Fedora system to work > on the XO. The application uses OSS API's which read and write to /dev/dsp > to acheive sound functionality. While porting I found out that the XO does > not have a /dev/dsp but has a single /dev/

Re: How to set up your XO to swap to an SD card

2008-08-11 Thread Andres Cabrera
Hi John, Thanks for the info. Are there noticeable performance gains/losses when using an external SD swap partition? Won't adding a line to /etc/fstab make the swap partition be used on startup automatically? Cheers, Andrés On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:21 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Motivation behind recent selections of tickets marked blocks?:8.2.0?

2008-08-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi John, Thanks a lot for looking at and updating all those items! On this: > The boot-lock/pretty-boot issue is not marked for blocking 8.2.0 -- > it's marked as a question of whether it should block 8.3.0. (Oops, > maybe you're calling the next release 9.1.0 -- I'm unclear on the > release

Sound on the OLPC

2008-08-11 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi, I am trying to port an application from a normal Fedora system to work on the XO. The application uses OSS API's which read and write to /dev/dsp to acheive sound functionality. While porting I found out that the XO does not have a /dev/dsp but has a single /dev/snd file for sound device.

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

2008-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
Not surprisingly, my experience on different machines with different versions of joyride and different collections of activities installed is that it is very inconsistent. Sometimes it just works, but often times, it gets hung on one or two activities, e.g., for a while, it would get stuck on Brows

Re: Datastore profiling

2008-08-11 Thread riccardo
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 15:30 +0200, riccardo wrote: > Hi, > > > Testcase: > Fill the datastore with `many small' objects. > > Build: 2266 < ... > > > > + Sysprof statistics: > http://dev.laptop.org/~rlucchese/datastore_fill/small_files__b2000.sysprof > > I can't see anything relevant fo

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-11 Thread Ixo X oxI
Another thought how difficult would it be to post a summary of the differences between the "weekly" builds ? ... so it's quick to see what has changed or not between them. (i.e. similar to the 'new joyride released" announcements) -iXo p.s. Or shall I just create a TRAC entry on this ide

Re: Motivation behind recent selections of tickets marked blocks?:8.2.0?

2008-08-11 Thread John Gilmore
> I've noticed you tagging lots of tickets over the last few days for > consideration as 8.2.0 blockers. Some of your selections make good sense > to me, like the GPL tickets (#4265), but others make less sense to me, > like the debuginfo packages issue (#4264), the TurtleArt naming issue > (#5941)