Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Hal Murray
There is another list of activities that is probably a subset of what should ship with G1G1. I'm thinking of the ones needed to test, exercise, or demonstrate various features of the software or hardware. In this context, simpler is better as there will be less chance of a bug in some other ch

Re: transients ?

2008-09-20 Thread Hal Murray
> In the past week I've noticed eth0 missing, but it came back after a > power cycle, so I wasn't sure if it was reproducible. Now that you've > mentioned related strangeness, I'll try harder to reproduce it. I have a Linksys WRT54GL. I typically have 2-4 other APs visible. There are no other

Help activity version 7, please test!

2008-09-20 Thread Seth Woodworth
http://dev.laptop.org/~seth/Help-7.xo Release version 7 of the Help activity. This version includes: * Anne's updated power section * Additional image fixes With this release I feel very confident in using git and the help activity repository. So from now on making new versions of the activity

Re: transients ?

2008-09-20 Thread James Cameron
In the past week I've noticed eth0 missing, but it came back after a power cycle, so I wasn't sure if it was reproducible. Now that you've mentioned related strangeness, I'll try harder to reproduce it. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
I am curious: do we have a taxonomy of the various applications we are expecting to see. Has there been a characterization of the problem we are trying to solve? The Gimp, which is a mess in any wm, seems to be the only example of a lots of floating little windows application anyone ever mentions.

Re: importance of Terminal

2008-09-20 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Had a case of subdirectories mysteriously disappearing from > /home/olpc/Activities, including Terminal.activity. Then found that > some Sugar scripts would not run from the text console (ctl-alt-F2). > [It also told m

transients ?

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Been noticing out-of-the-normal behavior once in a while. Latest was booting, and having the XO not define any /dev/mmcblk0 device. Rebooted (without any changes), and things were back to normal. Have also seen (non-reproducible) problems in OFW failing to boot the NAND, and in Network Manager

importance of Terminal

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Had a case of subdirectories mysteriously disappearing from /home/olpc/Activities, including Terminal.activity. Then found that some Sugar scripts would not run from the text console (ctl-alt-F2). [It also told me "you don't appear to have a connection".] Ended up manually "unzipping" Terminal

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-20 Thread pgf
michael wrote: > Paul, > > I think what Noah meant was that you would need to create a Trac Report. > Read http://dev.laptop.org/wiki/TracReports for more info. but it's a bug, so i reported it as such. =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
>> In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of >> the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. > I'm not convinced that they are well-tested. They included News Reader, > which hasn't worked for the last several releases. News Reader is a strange bird. In dev

Re: VideoChat-7 release

2008-09-20 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Chris Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I've installed the bundle on two XOs running 760 and > when connected to xochat.org I am able to start the > VideoChat program and see the self-video thumbnail > and a little XO Neighborhood sized icon of the 2nd XO > in t

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-20 Thread Michael Stone
Paul, I think what Noah meant was that you would need to create a Trac Report. Read http://dev.laptop.org/wiki/TracReports for more info. Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-20 Thread pgf
noah wrote: > On Sep 20, 2008, at 5:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > can i search for (the equivalent of) "power AND external" in trac? > > > > if not, can we change trac to _always_ do that, instead of > > an OR search? i can't remember the last time i actually wanted > > an OR searc

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-20 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On Sep 20, 2008, at 5:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > can i search for (the equivalent of) "power AND external" in trac? > > if not, can we change trac to _always_ do that, instead of > an OR search? i can't remember the last time i actually wanted > an OR search, whereas i almost always want a

trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-20 Thread pgf
can i search for (the equivalent of) "power AND external" in trac? if not, can we change trac to _always_ do that, instead of an OR search? i can't remember the last time i actually wanted an OR search, whereas i almost always want an AND search. paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PRO

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Seth Woodworth
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of > the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These > collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a > built-in community of

Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Ixo X oxI
How about adding these into Joyride Activities one at a time ? A sort of encouragement for testers to test them out. before 8.2 release :) -iXo On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 15:27, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship! > > Her

clean re-install w olpc-update

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Marshall
I tried to use olpc-update to force a clean re-install of an existing 8.2-760 system that had had some non-standard RPMs installed on it: olpc-update -r 8.2-760 To my surprise, instead of restoring to a pristine 8.2-760, olpc-update reported that I was already a 760! The principle of least sur

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call >> it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary. > > Surprisingly

Re: 8.2-760 collaboration + power save interaction

2008-09-20 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Chris Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also: I noticed that if you hover over a Friend in the > Group view to invite for sharing with the Chat Activity > that the popup menu has "Invite to" with the Chat > icon but not the word Chat. Given that some icons > mi

8.2-760 collaboration + power save interaction

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Marshall
Apologies for the non-Track report in the interest of faster reporting... I was demo-ing 2 MP XOs running the 8.2-760 release and observed failure to communicate invitations for sharing when the other XO was in the reduced power mode (as evidenced by the display darkening). The reduced power mode

Re: VideoChat-7 release

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Marshall
Thanks much for packaging this up! I've installed the bundle on two XOs running 760 and when connected to xochat.org I am able to start the VideoChat program and see the self-video thumbnail and a little XO Neighborhood sized icon of the 2nd XO in the big window next to the thumbnails. At that po

Re: Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths > [..] > I hope to implement experiments (as described in the wiki page > cited above) to start getting real life experience with these > tradeoffs. Awesome. We should try to get the GNOME people interested in rethi

Record 57 and behavior after resuming from suspend

2008-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If Record v57 is open and then the system resumes from suspend, the preview image is "solarized". To make the preview imagine restore to normal you need to either click on the O game key, or click on one of the other tabs in Record so the camera power cycles. Tested under build 8.2-760/Q2E

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of > the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These > collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a > built-in community of

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
^is^are^ :) On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of > the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These > collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a > built-in

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a built-in community of support. They are learning-centric collections, but presumably, those G1G1 purchas

Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are your criteria? Are you ranking things by supportability and size? > If so Ruler is a no-brainer. It's 20kb and is unlikely to break easily. > > On the other hand SimCity is hard to make drastic changes and still

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call > it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary. Surprisingly, it's not: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths I still think

Re: New joyride build 2462

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2462 > > Changes in build 2462 from build: 2458 > > Size delta: 0.13M > > -sugar 0.82.7-1.olpc3 > +sugar 0.82.8-1.olpc3 > -sugar-toolkit 0.82.8-2.olpc3 > +suga

New joyride build 2462

2008-09-20 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2462 Changes in build 2462 from build: 2458 Size delta: 0.13M -sugar 0.82.7-1.olpc3 +sugar 0.82.8-1.olpc3 -sugar-toolkit 0.82.8-2.olpc3 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.10-2.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.or

Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> Colors! is far superior to Paint. Colors! is a wonderful activity. I strongly object, on privacy grounds, to pre-installing the existing Colors! activity. Without asking for permission, the current implementation of Colors! activates the camera. I myself do NOT want the XO to be surreptit

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19 Sep 2008, at 22:50, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last >>> remaining setup.