Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a much bigger overlap than we often think. with the

Re: [Localization] Deployment-specific packages?

2008-10-08 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 16:14 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could shave off a few seconds of Etoys start-up time if, e.g., the Spanish translation

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Not yet... if someone wants to make a pdf from that page, this would rock. Something to discuss on Friday. As for window manager v. learning platform... an updated [[Glossary]] isn't a bad idea. SJ On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there

Re: [Server-devel] Password-less authentication with moodle

2008-10-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Andres, Looks like I answered the wrong question, sorry :-( Can you tell us more about where the Moodle and EduBlog will be deployed? Will it go on the existing Debian based servers in Uruguay or will it go on a server which is in a data center and access from Uruguay schools via WAN

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the Sugar learning platform +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) - Eben -walter On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL

using synergy

2008-10-08 Thread pgf
as a follow-on to my use your XO more thread, here's a useful way of sharing your main system's keyboard and mouse (including copy and paste) with your XO, in a fairly natural way. these instructions assume a linux desktop machine, but you can do this with a mac or windows as well. see

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread John Gilmore
I prefer the Sugar learning platform And my laundress prefers fabric revitalization consultant. Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes with

Re: Occasional mmc0 timeout on 2.6.25 master kernels

2008-10-08 Thread John Watlington
Please enter a ticket for this issue. It is conceivable that we might rely much more heavily on SD based storage in the future. If it isn't rock-solid, we need to find out why (or at least be aware of the issues.) Thanks, wad On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote: -BEGIN

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Walter, we still hold hope for XOs as school servers for very small schools.The problem with this is insufficient memory and insufficient disk space. While an external disk may alleviate the second

Re: using synergy

2008-10-08 Thread Ed McNierney
Paul - Thanks very much for this help. I've been wanting to be a real user of my XO more and this all helps me get pointed in the right direction. I'm also hoping the two hours I spend each day working on my XO on the commuter train will be a tiny little marketing pitch prior to G1G1 Day on

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread John Watlington
Sameer, We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools. Scalability with AAs is a problem, due to problems with the mesh protocols. Hence my comment about likely needing an external USB/network interface for the upstream connection. This might make the physical security

Re: Occasional mmc0 timeout on 2.6.25 master kernels

2008-10-08 Thread Denver Gingerich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:19 PM, John Watlington wrote: Please enter a ticket for this issue. Done: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8791 Denver http://ossguy.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Recommend: lockable, secure case, with built-in securement loops that could attach to a bike chain or cable. --HH. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer, We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools. Scalability with AAs is a

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing list and I don't really think Erik should take personal offence about them. If you

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing

Re: [Server-devel] Password-less authentication with moodle

2008-10-08 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Wednesday 08 October 2008 13:34:53 Greg Smith wrote: Hi Andres, Looks like I answered the wrong question, sorry :-( Can you tell us more about where the Moodle and EduBlog will be deployed? Will it go on the existing Debian based servers in Uruguay or will it go on a server which is in

Re: OLPC Sugar-Fedora OS name (Carlos Nazareno)

2008-10-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going with XO Software Release 8.2.0 as the name of the next major release. I prefer OLPC release 8.2, until such time as OLPC either (a) makes hardware other than the XO, or (b) ships/supports software other than Sugar.

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As if discussions on this list aren't lively enough, here's another issue to look at. This has been covered in many discussions - perhaps not so much on this list but it's an important issue. However, there is little we can

Read bug hit in Rwanda

2008-10-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Sayamindu, Are you maintaining Read now or is Morgan? I got a ping from Brian who is in Rwanda and he confirmed that this bug: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7090 was actually seen by kids there. Just as cjl predicted in Trac, it was hit by kids on first exposure to the XO. Can we get some

re: XO OS name

2008-10-08 Thread Carlos Nazareno
I prefer OLPC release 8.2 I think this may confuse people. Without the qualifier OS or Software, people might thing this could be the XO's hardware iteration (like B1, B2, B4) Also, it might be good to toss in the XO's name in there to indicate that this is the OS of the XO machine itself. Or

red dots on NAND map when usb updating

2008-10-08 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi all! What are the red dots on the NAND's disk cluster/block/sector visualization map when one does an update via USB stick and wipes the contents of the XO? Bad blocks? -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Python 2.6 Turtle module and Sugar TurtleArt (was Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 63, Issue 11)

2008-10-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
How would you compare this turtle module with the TurtleArt activity in Sugar? It is available in .deb and .rpm packages for Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora, and also in .xo bundles, installable with xo-get.py. Sugar Labs is working with other Linux distributions to make Sugar packages available as

Re: red dots on NAND map when usb updating

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Daniher
They are indeed bad blocks. I believe a block is a single cluster of eight kilobytes, the smallest unit of NAND flash - can anyone confirm this? -- Ian On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! What are the red dots on the NAND's disk

Re: Read bug hit in Rwanda

2008-10-08 Thread Brian Jordan
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sayamindu, Are you maintaining Read now or is Morgan? I got a ping from Brian who is in Rwanda and he confirmed that this bug: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7090 was actually seen by kids there. Just as cjl predicted in

Re: OLPC Sugar-Fedora OS name

2008-10-08 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all! Quick question: What's the official name/branding of the OS that ships with the OLPC? It's not Sugar as that's the GUI, and neither is it Fedora 9 anymore as it's been forked. Can we clarify this as I find

Re: red dots on NAND map when usb updating

2008-10-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
The red dots in the NAND display (scan-nand or copy-nand or its equivalent) are bad NAND erase blocks. An erase block is a 128K chunk that has to be erased as a unit. The erasure process gradually wears out the block (charge accumulates in the dielectric and shifts the thresholds to the point

Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC

2008-10-08 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/xs-xobuilds/ Out of curiosity why do we require the tree files which come from:

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
Hi Marco, That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning team here at OLPC and one thing we are trying to do is increase communications between our group and the technical side of the house. It seems the best way to communicate this information from the field is to use

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/08 02:17 PM To Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc devel@lists.laptop.org, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Reynolds [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
oh well, maybe it was just where we newbies entered the conversations - if that's the way you all work then fine. My main concern is that the info from the field gets to the right people. Best, Nia Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/08 02:33 PM To Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc

Re: XO OS name

2008-10-08 Thread Bastien
Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A spinoff from the name Sugar? Before Sugar was spunoff to run on other platforms, I think journalists kept calling the XO's OS Sugar. Mmm. Sugar-XO? Xugar? -- Bastien (who just agree a short sweet name would do.)

New joyride build 2514

2008-10-08 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2514 Changes in build 2514 from build: 2513 Size delta: 0.00M -dbus-x11 1.2.1-1.fc9 +dbus-x11 1.2.4-1.fc9 -dbus 1.2.1-1.fc9 +dbus 1.2.4-1.fc9 -dbus-libs 1.2.1-1.fc9 +dbus-libs 1.2.4-1.fc9 -tzdata 2008f-1.fc9 +tzdata 2008g-1.fc9 ---

Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC

2008-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: Cool. Are you doing this on xs-0.5? If you update to the newest rpms from the

Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC

2008-10-08 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: Cool. Are you doing this on xs-0.5? If you