The great battery experiment

2008-10-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
As I reported in my report that went to community news I'm looking for power use and battery life information. Here's a modified version of what I sent in for community news: Richard would like to call for help from the G1G1, developer, and testing community. Gathering large amount

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jim Gettys
I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him early this year, said it didn't make a significant difference. The wider Sugar and software

Re: Reminder: Demo of next-gen journal ideas *tomorrow noon* @ 1cc

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code) at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have it

failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on this issue that isn't supported by all the core developers. Scott seems to be suffering

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know much about spirits, but AFAIHS, RedHat has contributed enormously to Sugar. Do we really know if a switch from RH to Canonical would have worked better? AFAIK before they tried to do the OLPC thing but eventually

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread pgf
erik wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on this issue that isn't supported by all the core developers.

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 preview

2008-10-15 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However domain_config is leaving its xs_domain_name file in olpc-scripts instead of sysconfig causing make dhcpd.conf and thus dhcpd to fail. That is very weird - and was fixed ages ago - perhaps

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 18:21, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora

Re: [Techteam] weekend 10/10

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 10 2008, at 11:44, Tomeu Vizoso was caught saying: - when the filesystem gets less empty, the jffs2 gc thread has to work a lot and steals a considerable amount of cpu to the rest of the software. Try filling your

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could be converted to .deb

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: erik wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on this

Re: OLPC as Project of the Day at FOSS.in

2008-10-15 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 14/10/2008 am 12:15, ysgrifennodd John Gilmore: How about Collaboration as project of the day? Isn't our collaboration framework already shipped in other distros? The problem is that few applications actually use it to allow easy collaboration among end-users. There's probably some GUI

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 11:02 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very least it telegraphs the long-term support versions. Ubuntu also seems a much

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could be converted to .deb with not a lot of effort. Launchpad could also offer some benefit in terms of

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 preview

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, my mistake, I cd'ed into olpc-scripts instead of using the full path to call domain_config. :-( domain_config should not depend on CWD for its behaviour. Do you mean we have a bug with this? martin -- [EMAIL

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread david
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him early this year, said it didn't make a

Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Brian Jordan
http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/ (flash player of MP3 file) Listen with headphones for the win -- was recorded with in-ear microphones. Brian On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:42

Re: [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Mel Chua
Brian Jordan wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/ (flash player of MP3 file) Listen with headphones for the win -- was recorded with in-ear microphones. Brian IRC

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph A. Feinstein
Erik, I'll take a look at this. Joe --- At 11:45 AM 10/15/2008, Erik Garrison wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 04:34:01PM -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/

Re: [olpc-office-announce] [sugar] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I apologize for the length and ramblingness; I'll try to put together a screencast tomorrow with the good bits in 5 or 15 action-packed minutes. Does anyone have any screencast tools they'd recommend? I've heard that http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php is

Fwd: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Walter Bender
forgot to reply-all -w -- Forwarded message -- From: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Tagged Journal Proposal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Haven't had a chance to review the talk note yet, but one observation based on Paul's comment: On

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Christopher Sawtell
2008/10/16 Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone have any screencast tools they'd recommend? Wink:- http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php There are also some scripts floating around, but Wink is a packaged product. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a few random observations that i had today, prompted by scott's talk/demo: - while people don't tend to name their jpegs (today), they do tend to group them into folders (e.g. vacation_pix). the equivalent of this in

wpa supplicant init and logging

2008-10-15 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hello all! I need help understanding two things regarding the wpa supplicant on the XO. 1 - The init process: If you boot your XO and check the running wpa processes, here is what you'll see: # ps aux | grep wpa root 1310 0.1 0.7 5444 1848 ?S23:46 0:00

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The slides from my talk are at: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/journal2;a=blob_plain;f=journal2-talk.odp;hb=HEAD PDF version at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/journal2-talk.pdf I've updated the slides at

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical | tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining | this with

Re: [Techteam] wpa supplicant init and logging

2008-10-15 Thread pgf
ricardo wrote: Hello all! I need help understanding two things regarding the wpa supplicant on the XO. 1 - The init process: If you boot your XO and check the running wpa processes, here is what you'll see: # ps aux | grep wpa root 1310 0.1 0.7 5444 1848 ?

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical | tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining |

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | Heh, Ben doesn't like path tags, it looks like. ;-) No, I don't. (I do like Scott, and I do like Scott's demo in general and in other regards.) | Someone mentioned that facebook adds magic image | tags based on

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Gary C Martin
On 16 Oct 2008, at 01:51, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical | tags for various

[Server-devel] Tightening security for XS-0.5 -- things you can do on XS-0.4

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
If you have a XS-0.4 server with its publc IP address on the internet or on any other public network, make sure you firewall off *all* the ports on that interface. You might want to make an exception for SSH is you connect with ssh to the public address. This is a rather important security