The great battery experiment

2008-10-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
As I reported in my report that went to community news I'm looking for power use and battery life information. Here's a modified version of what I sent in for community news: Richard would like to call for help from the G1G1, developer, and testing community. Gathering large amount of

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jim Gettys
I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him early this year, said it didn't make a significant difference. The wider Sugar and software

Re: Reminder: Demo of next-gen journal ideas *tomorrow noon* @ 1cc

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code) >> at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have i

failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: >> In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on >> this issue that isn't supported by all the core developers. > > Scott seems to be suff

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't know much about spirits, but AFAIHS, RedHat has contributed > enormously to Sugar. Do we really know if a switch from RH to > Canonical would have worked better? AFAIK before they tried to do the OLPC thing but eventu

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread pgf
erik wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: > >> In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on > >> this issue that isn't supported by all the core developers.

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-15 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However "domain_config" is leaving >> its xs_domain_name file in olpc-scripts instead of sysconfig causing "make >> dhcpd.conf" and thus dhcpd to fail. > > That is very weird - and was fixed ages ag

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 18:21, Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to >> know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... > > If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedo

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it >> worth >> considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release >> cycle? at th

Re: [Techteam] weekend 10/10

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 10 2008, at 11:44, Tomeu Vizoso was caught saying: >> - when the filesystem gets less empty, the jffs2 gc thread has to work >> a lot and steals a considerable amount of cpu to the rest of the >> software. Try fillin

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. > > Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could > be converted to .

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:18, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > erik wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: > > >> In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work

Re: OLPC as Project of the Day at FOSS.in

2008-10-15 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 14/10/2008 am 12:15, ysgrifennodd John Gilmore: > How about Collaboration as project of the day? > > Isn't our collaboration framework already shipped in other distros? > The problem is that few applications actually use it to allow easy > collaboration among end-users. There's probably some G

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 11:02 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> >>> the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it >>> worth >>> considering a jump to Ubun

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it > worth > considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release > cycle? at the very least it telegraphs the long-term support versions. Ubuntu also seems a mu

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could be converted to .deb with not a lot of effort. Launchpad could also offer some benefit in terms of

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it > > worth > > considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release > > cycle? a

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, my mistake, I cd'ed into olpc-scripts instead of using the full path to > call domain_config. :-( domain_config should not depend on CWD for its behaviour. Do you mean we have a bug with this? martin -- [EMAIL PRO

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread david
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: > I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, > Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last > couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him > early this year, said it didn't make a signif

Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Brian Jordan
http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/ (flash player of MP3 file) Listen with headphones for the win -- was recorded with in-ear microphones. Brian On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:42 AM

Re: [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Mel Chua
Brian Jordan wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) > http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) > > http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/ (flash player of MP3 file) > > Listen with headphones for the win -- was recorded with in-ear microphones. > > Brian

Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph A. Feinstein
Erik, I'll take a look at this. Joe --- At 11:45 AM 10/15/2008, Erik Garrison wrote: >On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: > >> In particular, our security model has the effect of prevent

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread pgf
a few random observations that i had today, prompted by scott's talk/demo: - while people don't tend to name their jpegs (today), they do tend to group them into folders (e.g. "vacation_pix"). the equivalent of this in a tagged world would be bulk tagging. i assume sco

Re: [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Erik Garrison
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 04:34:01PM -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) > http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) > > http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-proposal/ (flash player of MP3 file) > > Listen with headphones for the win -- was

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 04:34:01PM -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: >> http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.mp3 (170 MB) >> http://dev.laptop.org/~bjordan/scottfs.ogg (127 MB) >> >> http://brianio.com/cscotts-journal-remix-prop

Re: [olpc-office-announce] [sugar] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > I apologize for the length and ramblingness; I'll try to put > together a screencast tomorrow with "the good bits" in 5 or 15 > action-packed minutes. Does anyone have any screencast tools > they'd recommend? I've heard that http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php is p

Re: [olpc-office-announce] [sugar] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:23 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I apologize for the length and ramblingness; I'll try to put together > a screencast tomorrow with "the good bits" in 5 or 15 action-packed > minutes. Does anyone have any screencast tools they'd recommend? > --scott

Fwd: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Walter Bender
forgot to reply-all -w -- Forwarded message -- From: Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Tagged Journal Proposal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Haven't had a chance to review the talk note yet, but one observation based on Paul's comment: On

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread Christopher Sawtell
2008/10/16 Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does anyone have any screencast tools they'd recommend? Wink:- http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php There are also some scripts floating around, but Wink is a packaged product. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a few random observations that i had today, prompted by scott's > talk/demo: > >- while people don't tend to name their jpegs (today), they >do tend to group them into folders (e.g. "vacation_pix"). >the equivalent o

wpa supplicant init and logging

2008-10-15 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hello all! I need help understanding two things regarding the wpa supplicant on the XO. 1 - The init process: If you boot your XO and check the running wpa processes, here is what you'll see: # ps aux | grep wpa root 1310 0.1 0.7 5444 1848 ?S23:46 0:00 /usr/sbin/wpa_suppl

Re: [sugar] [olpc-office-announce] Audio from demo of Scott's next-gen journal ideas, noon, 10/15/2008

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The slides from my talk are at: > > http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/journal2;a=blob_plain;f=journal2-talk.odp;hb=HEAD > > PDF version at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/journal2-talk.pdf I've updated the slides

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical | tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining | this with Scott's

Re: [Techteam] wpa supplicant init and logging

2008-10-15 Thread pgf
ricardo wrote: > Hello all! > > I need help understanding two things regarding the wpa supplicant on the XO. > > 1 - The init process: > > If you boot your XO and check the running wpa processes, here is what > you'll see: > > # ps aux | grep wpa > root 1310 0.1 0.7 5444 184

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up > | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical > | tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | Heh, Ben doesn't like path tags, it looks like. ;-) No, I don't. (I do like Scott, and I do like Scott's demo in general and in other regards.) | Someone mentioned that facebook adds magic image | tags based on *recognizing

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Gary C Martin
On 16 Oct 2008, at 01:51, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up | the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical | tags for various ty

Re: wpa supplicant init and logging

2008-10-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:02:24 -0300 > From: Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: tech-team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: wpa supplicant init and logging > > Hello all! > > I need help understanding two things regardi

World scriptures

2008-10-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
We have a Bible program in Sugar. Sword allows any number of texts, dictionaries, and commentaries in any combination of languages to be integrated together. I know where many other scriptures in many languages are available, and would like to start a project to integrate them into Sword and make t