Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Guylhem Aznar wrote: > Approx timings from pressing on the power button on my test machine > using an old 2.6.22 on a jffs2 partition > 2 seconds with the screen turned off > There is very little that can be done to reduce that 2 seconds, which is dominated by the time it takes to read the f

Re: Bootloader question (ext2/3 filesystem format evolution)

2009-06-03 Thread John Gilmore
> I'm thinking about ext4, but I must confess that my experience with ext2 > has been pretty frustrating. The ext2/3 on-disk format has sprouted many > new features over time. Supporting people who plug in disks that are > formatted with the latest fancy feature, then complain that an old > fi

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Guylhem Aznar
Hello, On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 05:34, Peter Robinson wrote: > You also have to realise that a atom cpu with a gig of ram and a relatively > fast SSD are hardware wise > an order of magnitude faster than the current Gen 1 XO hardware. Of course I do, but IMHO there are also some things that could

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tiago, > I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. > It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top > available in the final design, are you considering that option? No. That's where the wifi module will go, connected (electrically, not mechanically) v

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>  > >> I tried to summarize the issues here: >>  > >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim >>  > >> >>  > >> is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using >>  > >> VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these ov

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: > > hi peter -- > > > > bootanim does both the boot-time animation and the shutdown > > ul-warning screen.  it does the boot animation in an extremely > > efficient manner, shaving 10 or 11 seconds off our current boot > > times: > > 10 or 11 seconds off what? the previous boo

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
>  > >> I tried to summarize the issues here: >  > >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim >  > >> >  > >> is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using >  > >> VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over >  > >> the next few days. >  > > >  > > In similar fashi

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: > >> I tried to summarize the issues here: > >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim > >> > >> is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using > >> VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over > >> the next few days. > > > > In similar fashion

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
>> I tried to summarize the issues here: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim >> >> is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using >> VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over >> the next few days. > > In similar fashion to this: > http://www.brontes3d.com/o

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/6/3 Bobby Powers : > hey Dan, > > I tried to summarize the issues here: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim > > is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using > VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over > the next few days. In similar fashion to this:

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/6/3 Tomeu Vizoso : >> Maybe you are seeing the issue discussed here? >> >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024414.html > > I think so too, but an explanation of what is on the screen at the > point of the hang would not go

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote: > 2009/6/3 Tomeu Vizoso : > > Maybe you are seeing the issue discussed here? > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024414.html > > I think so too, but an explanation of what is on the screen at the > point of the hang would not go amiss. > > My tentative

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/6/3 Tomeu Vizoso : > Maybe you are seeing the issue discussed here? > > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024414.html I think so too, but an explanation of what is on the screen at the point of the hang would not go amiss. My tentative plans are to roll Bobby's new graphics wo

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Tiago Marques
Yes, mostly as a safety precaution, especially when there will be a full fledged Gnome Desktop and other heavier applications. The on-board flash is a terrible place to accomodate SWAP, unless we end up with 8GiB and proper wear levelling for the flash blocks. 1GB is a lot more than I would expect

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
bryan wrote: > I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this > problem or just us. > > We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 > > I have created a ticket for this > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9319 > > I realize that OLPC has rou

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 14:21, Bryan Berry wrote: > I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this > problem or just us. > > We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 > > I have created a ticket for this > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9319 > > I re

XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Bryan Berry
I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this problem or just us. We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 I have created a ticket for this http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9319 I realize that OLPC has roughly zero resources to fix problems like th

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:26:34PM +0100, Tiago Marques wrote: > I would have some uses for the slot, even if internal, like a SWAP > device. Even after the massive memory and flash size increase? -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Tiago Marques
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Tiago Marques wrote: > > Hi all, >> I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. >> It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top available in >> the final design, are you considering that option? >> > >

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > What version of XO software are you running? Have you tried SOAS or > one of the F11/rawhide test images to see if that improves speed at > all over 8.2.1? SoaS boot on XO-1 hw is fairly slow, but as you say it has more potential than the F

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
>> Don't believe everything you read on a wiki. >> OFW has included support for partitioned NAND since the first production >> shipments, dating back to January 2008.  The idea is to have a small >> boot partition that can be in any format that OFW supports - JFFS2, >> ext2, FAT, or even a .zip arc

Re: #9318 NORM 1.5-ATe: Via framebuffer failure on 1.5

2009-06-03 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Chris, On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 01:59:41AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Harald, > >> this means you need to boot with vmalloc=. The >> framebuffer needs to be vmalloc'ed. So if you have a relatively >> small amount of RAM, and the BIOS is configured for 256MB >> framebuffer s