Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 23:31 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: [...] > > I'm not against packaging Sugar for RHEL. I just think it would cost > > more to support after the first year or two. > > Agreed. And in fact I said that exactly and hence my reference to the > 18 month to 2.5 year point but the

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Tiago Marques
I still have this same issue with my 1.5 B2, which I reported to the list a while back. The pointer moves without touching the surface, although the distance is more like 2mm than half an inch for me. It's still annoying most of the time but one can live with it. Tiago On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:3

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 April 2010 19:52, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> Regardless of whether you use the updates bit or not, you'll want to >> reinstate that server configuration so that the laptops can receive >> lease updates before expiration (Raul told me that they have switched >> this feature on a while back wh

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> Ha! Upgrading Firefox to version 3.5 would break the xulrunner ABI, on > which we depend for hulahop (and hence Browse). I had zero problems running Firefox 3.5 from the Terminal activity on my XOs. I am currently running Firefox 3.6.3 - again, zero problems - including being able to launch it

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 18:55 -0300, Daniel Drake wrote: > I'd be surprised if there is any significant saving of space. As for > build time, that would also surprise me but I'm not so familiar with > the technicalities of mkfs.jffs2 - perhaps it does take a lot longer > for lots of links. You're ri

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> um, we've had a lot of trouble with XO-1 touchpads, which is what mikus > was using. i think this is the first report of serious erratic > operation on an XO-1.5. Sorry, you misinterpreted me. My experience has been with several XO-1s, NOT with the XO-1.5 -- that's what I meant when I said "th

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 07:59 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > I agree on this, but it misses the point :-) >> >> Not exactly. > > That was just supposed to continue your point-point-point pun :) > > >> >  * GSM connectivity requires up-to-

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread John Gilmore
> I have been running into this with the XO-1.5 prototype but thought it > was either a prototype issue or my fat fingers.. however I noticed it > with my kid also. Pretty much the same behaviour you list below.. in > low humidity the cursor will move without touching the keyboard. Is > there anyth

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:00 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > But at least you have 2 years. With F11 you have 0. I agree. Today we should be releasing a system based on F13, which would come with 12 months of "official" support and maybe 8-10 months of *real* attention of the upstream develo

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > From: Bernie Innocenti > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 > build 119) > > I'm not against packaging Sugar for RHEL. I just think it > would cost > more to support after the first year or two. > But a

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Paul Fox wrote: > From: Paul Fox > Subject: Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive > To: mi...@bga.com > Cc: "OLPC Devel" , "fedora-olpc-list" > > Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 3:41 PM > > Are there any software parameters that I can play > with, to try to > >

Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> I have observed this problem a couple of times, although only after > reflashing the OS. The machine would hang after displaying the frame of > the boot animation with just one dot. So far, if I've been running a machine, and it has hung -- and if it doesn't want to reboot -- I will do the EC re

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Paul Fox
stephen john smoogen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > > stephen john smoogen wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > > > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no > > > > problem with cursor positioning.

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > stephen john smoogen wrote: >  > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >  > > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no >  > > problem with cursor positioning.  Lately I've often needed to operate >  >

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 07:59 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > I agree on this, but it misses the point :-) > > Not exactly. That was just supposed to continue your point-point-point pun :) > > * GSM connectivity requires up-to-date versions of udev and > > modem-manager to support USB dongles

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Hal Murray
> I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no problem > with cursor positioning. Lately I've often needed to operate XOs (hdw early > G1G1, but F11 build) with the native keypad, and I can appreciate the many > complaints I have heard about using the old keypad. Does any

Re: strange keyboard problem with synaptics controller

2010-04-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/16/2010 02:34 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > The problem continues after powering off and on again. The solution is > to disconnect the charger and the battery, then reconnect, causing an > EC reset. > > What would be the next steps for debugging the next time we see this? Attach a serial port a

OLPC/Sugar Contributors Program Mtg (NOW! on #olpc-meeting, 4PM Boston Time, Friday)

2010-04-16 Thread Holt
Please all join us right now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * XO-1.5 early production machines now available & shipping: http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-produ

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Paul Fox
stephen john smoogen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no > > problem with cursor positioning. Lately I've often needed to operate > > XOs (hdw early G1G1, but F11 build) with the native keypad

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Paul Fox
hi mikus -- i think you meant to write "touchpad" instead of "keypad" throughout this mail. :-) mikus wrote: > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no > problem with cursor positioning. Lately I've often needed to operate > XOs (hdw early G1G1, but F11 build) with

[Server-devel] OLPC & Moodle use

2010-04-16 Thread Luuk Terbeek
Dear members of the server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Currently I'm preparing a presentation for the Dutch Moodle Moot. I hope to spread the word of the wonderful things that happen & possibilities regarding the use of Moodle related to the OLPC project. For that reason I try to create an overview o

Re: the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no > problem with cursor positioning.  Lately I've often needed to operate > XOs (hdw early G1G1, but F11 build) with the native keypad, and I can > appreciate the many compla

the old keypad behavior gets too sensitive

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no problem with cursor positioning. Lately I've often needed to operate XOs (hdw early G1G1, but F11 build) with the native keypad, and I can appreciate the many complaints I have heard about using the old keypad. In my case, the ke

strange keyboard problem with synaptics controller

2010-04-16 Thread Daniel Drake
I've seen this issue on several XO-1s with the Synaptics hardware, and now on an XO-1.5 ramp unit running firmware Q3A36. Upon booting, the keyboard under Linux doesn't work right, e.g. pressing q results in d (fictional example -- can't recall if this is an exact example of a mismatch). Rebootin