XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
Hello everyone, I'm trying to perform some tests on XO battery life performance and I have some questions which I couldn't find a clear answer in the wiki or this list: - When the battery level is "critically low" the OS (Sugar 0.88 based Dextrose) performs a safe shutdown. I would like to know wh

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Fox
ismael wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm trying to perform some tests on XO battery life > performance and I have some questions which I couldn't find a clear answer > in the wiki or this list: i'm sure richard will chime in, but here's a start. > > - When the battery level is "critically low" t

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
Thanks, for starters this is really useful, because it's not at all similar to what I've been observed. The computer powers off with battery levels between 10-15% and the led starts blinking around 5-10%. I'm using several batteries on the same XO 1.0 computer. Granted, the batteries are not fresh

Re: Mesh Potatos and OLPCs?

2011-03-24 Thread Ed McNierney
Luiz - I want to be clear that as far as I am aware OLPC has never "lost interest in supporting its mesh", and we have continued to look for ways to achieve its original goals. In the XO-1.5 we opted for a WLAN radio that didn't have built-in mesh support because it used much less power (in al

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 08:55 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > Thanks, for starters this is really useful, because it's not at all > similar to what I've been observed. The computer powers off with battery > levels between 10-15% and the led starts blinking around 5-10%. I'm > using several batteries on the same

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
That's exactly what I wanted to know. How was the SOC evaluated when the battery lost capacity. If there was some estimation on the battery loss or just a full capacity assumption and then early poweroff. I have several batteries, some of them pretty old (that's the idea). A couple of S/Ns: 006020

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:15 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Whats the serial number of your battery? You may also want to run a > olpc-pwr-log run with that battery so you can determine what the actual > capacity of the battery is. Even better you are in a position to help me figure out how best to deal w

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:25 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > I have several batteries, some of them pretty old (that's the idea). A > couple of S/Ns: > > 00602 080616 110002384 > 00602 080608 11600 The mfg is embedded in the serial number pos 6-11 format YYMMDD So these 2 batteries where produced 2008/0

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
We would really like to have a relatively accurate result *as fast as possible *of the condition of a battery. That's what I'm trying to get to. I could run the olpc-pwr-log on 15 batteries aprox. Used batteries but in a "probably good" condition. I'm also trying to get some really bad but function

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
OK. Just read this email. So the plan would be: - Start from a fully charged battery, run the olpc-pwr-log script until poweroff. - Remove battery, plug XO, run script and insert battery until fully charged. If you would prefer a different test please let me know. Ismael 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smi

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:53 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > OK. Just read this email. > So the plan would be: > - Start from a fully charged battery, run the olpc-pwr-log script until > poweroff. > - Remove battery, plug XO, run script and insert battery until fully > charged. Yes. Or the other way around if

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:53 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > If you would prefer a different test please let me know. oh and if this is a build that running powerd then you need to stop it or disable power management and turn off dpms screen blanking. On 1.5 dpms is not active but it is on XO 1.0. The ma

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:45 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > We would really like to have a relatively accurate result *as fast as > possible *of the condition of a battery. That's what I'm trying to get to. > I could run the olpc-pwr-log on 15 batteries aprox. Used batteries but > in a "probably good" conditio

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 10:31 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > If you run _exactly_ the same test under the same conditions. Same > temperature, same test duration, same XO, then it might be possible to > compare the current voltage, Battery temperature will also be a concern. If you test the discharge immed

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I definately won't be able to finish today because they all have different OS images and I think it would be best if I update them all (even for future tests). Maybe tomorrow, maybe monday. I think it will be very hard to perform the sa

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I definately won't be able to finish today because they all have different OS images and I think it would be best if I update them all (even for future tests). Maybe tomorrow, maybe monday

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
OK. Great. Is the attached version newer than the one in Sugar 0.88?? Because the latest dextrose image is mainly based on Sugar 0.88 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smith > On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I >> definately won'

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Fox
ismael wrote: > OK. Great. Is the attached version newer than the one in Sugar 0.88?? almost certainly. paul > Because the latest dextrose image is mainly based on Sugar 0.88 > > 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smith > > > On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > > > I'm planning to u

switching to GNOME

2011-03-24 Thread Sameer Verma
What's the command line for switching to GNOME if the icon in the control panel has been removed? cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: switching to GNOME

2011-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
echo 'gnome' > ~/.olpc-active-desktop :-) m On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > What's the command line for switching to GNOME if the icon in the > control panel has been removed? > > cheers, > Sameer > ___ > Devel mailing list > D

Re: switching to GNOME

2011-03-24 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Thu, Mar 24 2011, Sameer Verma wrote: > What's the command line for switching to GNOME if the icon in the > control panel has been removed? http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-switch-desktop/tree/sugar/model.py suggests that it's: echo gnome > /home/olpc/.olpc-active-desktop and rest

Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi all, the folks from the Austrian pilot project want to equip the XO-1s there with SD cards. Are there any restrictions wrt size, speed, etc. that they should be aware of when purchasing the SD cards? I'm particularly asking after reading James' mention of seeing more issues with newer cards and

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > the folks from the Austrian pilot project want to equip the XO-1s there with > SD cards. Are there any restrictions wrt size, speed, etc. that they should > be aware of when purchasing the SD cards? I'm particularly asking af

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 24 March 2011 20:26:05 Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > > the folks from the Austrian pilot project want to equip the XO-1s there with > SD cards. Are there any restrictions wrt size, speed, etc. that they should > be aware of when purchasing the SD cards? I'm particularly askin

Re: Mesh Potatos and OLPCs?

2011-03-24 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:10:00AM -0400, Ed McNierney wrote: > We also spent a lot of money to hire cozybit to develop 802.11s mesh > software for the XO-1.5 (running on the host processor) specifically > for a potential project in Brazil. Technical References: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Thinfirm

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Scott, Arnd, thanks a lot for your comments and suggestions, much appreciated! :-) Cheers, Christoph On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2011 20:26:05 Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > the folks from the Austrian pilot project want to equ

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi Rodolfo, I think the idea is to use it as a storage device. Christoph On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Rodolfo D. Arce S. < rodolfo.arc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Christoph: > > You're talking about running the OS from the card? > > Because you could use it as an external drive only. But I'm ge

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread Rodolfo D. Arce S.
Hi Christoph: Then is not so much a matter of I/O, at least not in the terms that we think of it. We're more incline to think how fast a file can be copied from the NAND to the external device, but that only happens when you're copying several files at once. We're programmers, geeks. Perhaps it d

Re: Mesh Potatos and OLPCs?

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Ed McNierney wrote: > Luiz - > > I want to be clear that as far as I am aware OLPC has never "lost interest in > supporting its mesh", and we have continued to look for ways to achieve its > original goals.  In the XO-1.5 we opted for a WLAN radio that didn't hav