Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote: > >> Hm well, you at least got me thinking how we can make a small dense >> indoor mesh working without APs interesting challenge. Like think about >>

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > On 08/24/2010 01:01 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote: > >> >> Well - the issue is IMHO that OLPC always sold the public on the mesh >> idea. So it is somewhat of a bummer that the mesh is gone now. >> > > Let

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > >> The largest of our mesh problems did not have to do with scalability on >> sheer number of nodes but rather scalability in density. Is there any >> information available on how

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
(...) >> >> >> BTW Richard, as far as I remember the problems with 802.11s seemed to be: >> 1) the standard is not a standard and it was intentionally crippled >> 2) the drivers were very b0rked and broken (and Marvel did a terrible job >> with the driver software) >> >> Scalability to less t

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
multipath effects. When you have many many laptops in one room and everybody "screams"/sends very loud then you have lots of "echos" (multipath fading) bouncing off the walls etc. 802.11n thrives off these multipath effects. As I said - first solve layer 1 & 2 issues and t

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > > On 08/24/2010 10:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > > > Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our closed > > source firmware and partnering with communities like Freifunk whose > > network is ~ 800 node, guifi.net is alm

Re: "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-08-24 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > > On 08/24/2010 10:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > > > Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our closed > > source firmware and partnering with communities like Freifunk whose > > network is ~ 800 node, guifi.net is alm