Re: using laptop charger

2013-12-12 Thread NoiseEHC
s/diodes p.s. if you find one diode does what you need, then add another in case of variation in the supply or laptop. You might even add a full-wave bridge rectifier instead of two diodes, that way the input polarity won't matter. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 01:52:54PM +, NoiseEHC wrote:

using laptop charger

2013-12-11 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I am thinking about using my laptop's charger instead of the OLPC charger in the future as I move a lot and it's getting really tiresome to bring both chargers with me. The plan is to create a converter plug and use only the laptop's but it has different voltage levels. laptop: TOSHIBA p

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
On 22/10/2013 21:21, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: So that was my $0.02. Obviously it can be too late to change plans but who knows. I have uploaded the source anyway so you can use it if you want. What I really don't understand is, if is all that easy why not be involved and help? T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
I have put the ?latest? sources here: https://github.com/NoiseEHC/sugar-webkit-native It requires a "yum install webkitgtk3-devel" to be able to compile, unfortunately my XO-1.75 says that there are no more mirrors to try for mesa and libdrm dependencies so I could not try it under

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
sources here: https://github.com/NoiseEHC/sugar-webkit-native It requires a "yum install webkitgtk3-devel" to be able to compile, unfortunately my XO-1.75 says that there are no more mirrors to try for mesa and libdrm dependencies so I could not try it under an ARM XO... (I did try it some ti

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-09 Thread NoiseEHC
On 07/10/2013 18:41, David Farning wrote: Activity Central supports the recent HTML5 + JS work that is going into sugar .100. It has the potential to take the OLPC vision to any device which runs a browser while simultaneously *increasing* the potential activity *developer* *pool* by several orde

Re: x performance problem in webkitgtk

2013-07-08 Thread NoiseEHC
Just checked, build 12 fixed this. Thanks! On 07/07/2013 21:14, Jerry Vonau wrote: Think you ran into the same root cause as https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12718 might be fixed in 13.2.0-12 Jerry On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 19:42 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: Just tested with WikipediaEN that it does not

Re: x performance problem in webkitgtk

2013-07-07 Thread NoiseEHC
Just tested with WikipediaEN that it does not happen on 21021 (12.1.0) so it is a regression. On 07/07/2013 18:53, NoiseEHC wrote: Hi! Now that I am developing a HTML editor application, noticed a performance problem on xo1.75 latest (32011). The symptom is that text selection is very-very

x performance problem in webkitgtk

2013-07-07 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! Now that I am developing a HTML editor application, noticed a performance problem on xo1.75 latest (32011). The symptom is that text selection is very-very slow in the editor. You can test it by opening a long page from wikipedia in epiphany, selecting some text with the mouse then press

Need some information about the stark reality in deployments

2013-07-03 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! Could somebody from OLPC or some big deployments answer these questions please? 1. As I understand, deployments stuck on old builds. What it the most popular version? I guess it is GTK2 based. 2. Is there a plan to deploy newer versions? If so what is the roadmap? I ask this as I want t

Re: compiling and running webkit2gtk on xo-1.75/os/candidate/13.2.0-9

2013-06-27 Thread NoiseEHC
So I will stick to webkit1... On the other hand, going native is clearly the way to go, as it launches in 2-5 sec (usually ~3), while Browse launches in 13 sec on my xo-1.75... Just curious, what do you mean by "going native"? I am porting PhoneGap to the XO. It is very similar to the sugarla

Re: compiling and running webkit2gtk on xo-1.75/os/candidate/13.2.0-9

2013-06-27 Thread NoiseEHC
On 27/06/2013 16:20, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM, NoiseEHC wrote: which updated a lot of packages and my program finally started. If I compile with webkitgtk1 then it runs, with webkitgtk2 it crashes. The crash (SIGSEGV) happens in glXCreateContext in /lib/ligBL.so.1

compiling and running webkit2gtk on xo-1.75/os/candidate/13.2.0-9

2013-06-27 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I have written a native webkit gtk application for HTML5 applications (native so it does not require python), and today I tried to compile and execute it on the xo-1.75 laptop. My experiences can help fixing the issue that webkit2gtk crashes on the laptops as sugarlabs people reported it

Re: XO-3 Announcement?

2012-01-11 Thread NoiseEHC
Secondly, and probably more importantly, neither of the aforementioned assumptions are really true with Android. I've yet to hear the argument that pupils absolutely need to use Android (or iOS for that matter) based devices today because that's what they gotta know tomorrow. Plus there fra

Re: Android on XO-1.75

2011-11-23 Thread NoiseEHC
I am doing it. It got stuck since when I have received the machine github was down for a long time (was hacked or something). After that I decided to wait for Android 4.0 and just yesterday was I able to download all the source. Since I have already did a half-finished XO-1 port I can tell you

Re: XO-1.75 B1 units - this is how they look

2011-08-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Do you have any prototypes with touchscreens? Or have you dropped the idea? On 2011.07.29. 21:18, Martin Langhoff wrote: CL2 and CL2A, B1-stage engineering prototypes, just arrived in Miami and Boston http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/xo1.75-b1-look/ If you want one, you know what to do... :-)

Re: XO-1 touchpad once more [Devel Digest, Vol 64, Issue 28]

2011-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
The newer builds are close to unusable. That is one of the reason I do not use them. (The other is that the gamepad does not work and it kills the XO-1 as an ebook reader...) On 2011.06.15. 14:09, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis > wrote: >> Howev

Re: OPENPAD tablet designed for children

2011-06-01 Thread NoiseEHC
I do not see why is it so specially designed for children. On the other hand I would buy instantly an unbreakable Android tablet with a dual mode screen (Pixel Qi like) which is water-proof (not only spill-proof) so it could be washed under the tap. I would not even miss the USB and SD slots if

Re: Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-24 Thread NoiseEHC
hat (not) to do but the question is whether this turtling down have so much pedagogical value to worth the added complexity? So the real question is what the goal is? On 2011.05.20. 20:02, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > 2011/5/20 NoiseEHC: >> 1. Why do the bytecode stuff? JS seems to be a perfectly

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-24 Thread NoiseEHC
No. OOP is overhyped anyway... It only helps for namespacing, and primitive values where encapsulation works. Since children will not make reusable libraries mostly I think there is no point making things more complex as they already are. BTW I did not find the second version more readable but

Re: Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread NoiseEHC
Okay, I finally read through all the text and run the samples. What is not clear to me: 1. Why do the bytecode stuff? JS seems to be a perfectly good code representation to me and it can be run much faster compared to a naive bytecode interpreter or compiler written without the resources of the

Re: Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread NoiseEHC
How does it compare to this? http://waterbearlang.com/ On 2011.05.20. 15:30, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I've done a little more work on "Turtles All The Way Down", which I > (very briefly) discussed at EduJam. I actually wrote a garbage > collector in TurtleScript for TurtleScript on Sunday. Brie

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-12 Thread NoiseEHC
Cool! What I do not get is this: what is the goal? Having an environment running on Android which can run the same XO bundles which are run by XO-1.x? If the Sugar API has to be changed (adapted for some technical reason) would you fork all activities? Thanks, NoiseEHC On 2011.04.12. 19:56, C

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-05 Thread NoiseEHC
>> What is a Portfolio? > http://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/features/mi08012002.html > > -walter > Thanks! So it seems that the portfolio is the (maybe child selected) subset of the Journal. Am I right? How is it addressed in the current Sugar implementation? If it is not then is there a "specifi

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> The Journal and Portfolio are really important part of Walter's vision > of Sugar. They will be "system services", with strong enough > modularization to allow multiple competing implementations. I know > how that will work in web/nativeclient model. I'm not certain how > that works on Androi

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-05 Thread NoiseEHC
get what your point with invisible compatibility is... Good luck anyway, NoiseEHC BTW, in the next 4 weeks I will rewrite Sugar to HTML5... :) On 2011.04.05. 0:09, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at > http://cananian.li

Re: NOW: OLPC Contributors Program Mtg (#olpc-meeting, 3PM EDT, Apr 1)

2011-04-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Are there any news whether the touch screen enabled 1.75 XO prototype will be available to the contributors program? If yes when can we expect them to be available? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: XO-1.75 progress

2010-11-11 Thread NoiseEHC
Okay, I will rephrase my questions maybe I will get a real answer to them: 1. Is there any reason why do you use the latest and greatest Marvell SoC instead of an old (and maybe cheaper) one? Like the tablets on the "Marvell product platform page" do? 2. There were plans for touch screen and bi

Re: XO-1.75 progress

2010-11-11 Thread NoiseEHC
> OLPC Engineering had a trip to Taipei for the XO-1.75 motherboard > bringup last week. The 1.75 machine lives in the same industrial > design (display, case, batteries) as the XO-1/XO-1.5, but uses an > ARM system-on-chip from Marvell -- the Armada 610/MMP2. Now that is good news. Two ques

Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
It is more problematic than that. 1. When the Radio is checked (on) after boot I see the 3 mesh networks and the XO-1 can see other access points. 2. When the Radio is unchecked (off) then I see neither mesh networks nor other access points. 3. Setting on-off seems to work and the checkbox sho

Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
5. Missed that the camera led blinks when the laptop is in a suspended state so probably something wakes up the laptop. But why does it touches the camera is beyond my understanding. On 2010.09.21. 16:02, NoiseEHC wrote: >Hi! > > I just had a little time to try 852 on the XO-1

Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
/pipermail/devel/2010-September/029875.html Not sure whether there was a point reporting this list though. Thanks, NoiseEHC On 2010.08.31. 3:00, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release > build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 lapto

Re: Update for geode driver

2010-09-04 Thread NoiseEHC
Just two questions: When I ported Android to the XO-1, I had to fix a bug in the original geode driver. The problem was that the Linux frame buffer driver uses a memcmp (in fbmem.c, in function fb_set_var) which compares the whole length of the fb_var_screeninfo structure and the last reserved

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-10 Thread NoiseEHC
> We used to do that, the problem is that we don't control our platform > as Google controls Android and you need to make sure that resources > that need to be specific of each child process aren't shared (dbus and > X connections, etc). > > I'm personally more interested in reducing the amount of

Re: Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-09 Thread NoiseEHC
> Sugar has a similar mechanism. From the Low-level Activity API docs: > > org.laptop.Activity.SetActive(b: active) > Activate or passivate an activity. This is sent when switching activities, > there is only one active activity at a time, all others are passive. A > passive activity must immedi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion -- round N+1

2010-06-24 Thread NoiseEHC
> After making tests [1] in deployments for "start new" > vs. "resume" we concluded that the way activity starting works on the > iPhone would probably work well in Sugar, too [2]. > Hehe, this is exactly the thing you would get with per-activity datastores. Guess what, Android does this to

Re: F11-0.88 os260py

2010-06-18 Thread NoiseEHC
Yes, I talked about automatic suspend. However the WLAN was not connected to any access points and it seems that Bernie talked about dropped wireless connections in the release notes as far as I know. Paul Fox wrote: > noiseehc wrote: > > I have just installed it onto my XO-1 (C1 m

Re: F11-0.88 os260py

2010-06-18 Thread NoiseEHC
I have just installed it onto my XO-1 (C1 model with the old style touchpad) without anything plugged into it. It seems to work but the suspend/resume is "interesting". Sometimes it goes to suspend but after that I cannot wake it up except with the screen rotation button. I press the button and

Re: OLPC/Marvell Press Release

2010-05-28 Thread NoiseEHC
It was already discussed to death on the mailing lists. (The threads derailed very fast so there was almost no discussion about important things like the feasibility of a future Sugar -> Android transition.) http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/015369.html http://lists.lapto

Re: New keyboard layouts

2010-04-28 Thread NoiseEHC
keyboard. Both the cursor keys and both the joystick "emulation" keys suck.) Paul Fox wrote: > noiseehc wrote: > > Could you just put UP to the place of ?, put ? to the place of RIGHT, > > and put RIGHT to the place of UP? > > I am not THAT old to understand what

Re: New keyboard layouts

2010-04-28 Thread NoiseEHC
Could you just put UP to the place of ?, put ? to the place of RIGHT, and put RIGHT to the place of UP? I am not THAT old to understand what is so cool about that "hjkl vi arrangement" and I guess no children will either. I feel that moving just one more key from its 101 key standard position ca

Re: Impact of changing default Screen depth on other XO Apps

2010-01-27 Thread NoiseEHC
h. Thanks Shivaprasad 2010/1/27 NoiseEHC mailto:noise...@freemail.hu>> Since you can only blit pictures on an X server and cannot get a direct pointer to the video memory, I do not know what your problem is. You can just allocate a 32 bit offscreen buffer in the address space o

Re: Impact of changing default Screen depth on other XO Apps

2010-01-27 Thread NoiseEHC
Since you can only blit pictures on an X server and cannot get a direct pointer to the video memory, I do not know what your problem is. You can just allocate a 32 bit offscreen buffer in the address space of your application and blit it via the X server to the 16 bit video memory (draw). The X

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-01-25 Thread NoiseEHC
> i've been doing some research and found a couple of companies with SDR > R.F. front-end ICs. one is 40nm and is so tiny that it will only cost > about $2, mass-produced. also thanks to being in 40nm, the speed of > vs > i repeat. all those can be replaced with _one_ i repeat _one_ single

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-29 Thread NoiseEHC
to do this you would have to declare one specific variation of these tools as the 'One True Way' and eliminate all the others. the advantage of a loosly coupled IDE is that one component can be replaced by something else without having to change/loose all the other things. and the advantag

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-29 Thread NoiseEHC
2009/12/29 NoiseEHC : me. Another (optional) question is why did you left out gdb from the list? All sorts of things run on the 3/4 xterms i use. valgrind, gdb, python -m pdb, tail -f /path/to/log, ipython, ps_mem.py, psql, git commands... And if all those tools would be

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-29 Thread NoiseEHC
For the other people talking about IDEs: an usable IDE is not a text editor. Of course. What I do (and most other productive programmers I know do) is use the window manager (gnome, kde, awesome...), xterms, a webbrowser, etc, to make a "LIDE": loosely integrated dev environment. I've le

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-29 Thread NoiseEHC
> Are you aware the XO ships a full Smalltalk IDE? You know, like VisualAge > which later became Eclipse? It's "hidden" in the Etoys activity, but > (surprise!) it's a kids laptop. Because someone will break your arms if you port Etoys to Android. Now I understand. > The software is designed

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread NoiseEHC
> Ahem. With XO-1.5, I feel that I AM shipping a "full-fledged Linux > PC" to every child. > Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host > an IDE ? > > My point still stands: until Android supports its own development > tools, you are > turning it's users into second

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread NoiseEHC
>> Actually, no. The .class -> .dex compiler consumes an enormous amount of >> memory, so it is out of the question at least for now. > > How much is enormous ? A laptop/tablet is likely to have more than > a smartphone... > With hundreds of classes in a .jar to convert it uses some 256M, with

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-27 Thread NoiseEHC
> Does Android not host its development tools because it doesn't run the > X Window System? Since X already runs on most of the hardware that > Android does, that wouldn't be too hard to remedy -- and would benefit > the whole Android community. > Actually, no. The .class -> .dex compiler cons

Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial

2009-12-27 Thread NoiseEHC
> > Actually, I would argue that an operating system that doesn't > natively host its development tools is not appropriate for OLPC's > target audience. > Self hosting is not an absolute requirement. You just have traded an existing, usable developer environment (like Eclipse) for the possibilit

Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial

2009-12-24 Thread NoiseEHC
with Bert. What problems has Android solved that Sugar was created to solve, in your opinion? On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Bert Freudenberg mailto:b...@freudenbergs.de>> wrote: On 24.12.2009, at 12:59, NoiseEHC wrote: > > You know, Android OS solves exactly

Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial

2009-12-24 Thread NoiseEHC
> I hadn't looked closely enough to see the detailed licensing. But I'd > seen the news stories about Google cease-and-desists to the guys making > improved free versions. Is a useful fully-free version readily > available, as a practical option? > > The guy bundled the not free Google applic

Re: os33 - video regression ?

2009-10-27 Thread NoiseEHC
> To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo > extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash > uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but > Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. > Xv can blit both YUV and RG

Re: Booting squashfs from olpc.fth

2009-10-27 Thread NoiseEHC
You probably need to do a dcon-unfreeze as well. \ OLPC boot script unfreeze dcon-unfreeze " u:\android\initrd.img" to ramdisk " u:\android\kernel" to boot-device " root=/dev/ram0 console=tty0 androidboot.hardware=xo1" to boot-file boot Sebastian Silva wrote: Hello I'm trying to boot into Tris

Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-30 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper cut" criteria? Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-04 Thread NoiseEHC
> > Once BTRFS is mature, yum learns to snapshot-upgrade-or-revert and we > switch to that combo, we will be able to retire olpc-update, the > symlink trees and the fancy overlays. > Do you have a prediction (I mean an educated guess) about when will BTRFS be mature? What I heard last time that

Re: kernel debugging

2009-08-04 Thread NoiseEHC
Somehow every time I asked about debugging in these forums I have got no answer at all. Now I have a weak feeling that Linux developers are "real programmers" who do not use debuggers. I hope it is not the case... :) > 2. > I looked into using the USB port with gadget support. I am attaching > t

Re: New F11-for-XO1 build is available and needs testing

2009-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
I copied both files to a usb drive then booted with holding the esc key. Then 'copy-nand u:\os3.img' then it copied and I got back the firmware prompt. It did not bark about wrong crc or something like that. Then I switched the XO-1 off then switched on and all I can get is a Boot failed error

kernel debugging

2009-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! Recently I have started porting Android-x86 to the XO-1 and unfortunately hit a wall. I know that it can be done since somebody already booted it but the hard drive crashed in his laptop and he had no backups... The porting progresses a little bit slowly because I know almost nothing abou

Re: A1 Motherboard specs diagram

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> You are mistaken. The Geode LX has a two scaler units, and neither can > feed back to the main CPU. One of them is in the Geode Display Controller > (not the DCON), and simply scales the entire screen to the output. The > other is in the Video Controller, and can be used only for overlay > sc

Re: A1 Motherboard specs diagram

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> There are no free 3D drivers. I have heard nothing to indicate that there > are likely to be soon. I would be surprised if OLPC were to ship the > proprietary drivers, though I cannot speak for them. > Then please test the xvideo extension with sleep/resume. I assumed (wrongly) that there

dev.laptop.org expored

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
dev.laptop.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 2009.06.06. 16:03. (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-04 Thread NoiseEHC
The kernel init improvements will certainly bring 15 other seconds. Maybe some parallelisation of the sysvinit will save some time, say 5 seconds (low end estimation) Parallelization will not help at all if you are using JFFS2. The low level NAND driver that JFFS2 uses busy waits for

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Sorry, should have explained myself better, as I was also talking about memory speed and not size, this time. Ahh, if you wrote about memory size then never mind my comments. :) Thing is, most flash controller implementations are crap, and it will probably be the case with the one in Gen

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Please, always use reply-all. Answers inlined where I have an answer. Tiago Marques wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, NoiseEHC <mailto:noise...@freemail.hu>> wrote: The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar netbooks:

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
> The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar > netbooks: > > http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352 > > For most tasks it is slower than an 600MHz Celeron M and that's not > exactly fast. Does anyone more familiar with the hardware have any > idea of how

Re: ffreep support on Geode LX (XO-1)

2009-05-07 Thread NoiseEHC
> please file a ticket at dev.laptop.org, with details on how to > reproduce the ffreep issue using build 802. (if it's only > reproducible with debxo (unclear from what's been written so > far), then the priority (and the fix) will likely be very > different.) > > I cannot reproduce it reliab

Re: ffreep support on Geode LX (XO-1)

2009-05-07 Thread NoiseEHC
I have just tested it on my XO and the Geode DOES NOT support the ffreep instruction. It could explain the halting shutdown when it stalls with a signal 15 (which happens to be SIGILL) and only continuing it when I switch to the other console (as I reported in [1]). So fixing it and creating a

Re: Ambient light sensing via LED response

2009-05-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> But why do you say you would need 1 mV accuracy ? Bright sunlight > is far stronger than > the light sources he used. > I am not an engineer so forgive me if I am saying something stupid, but is not the goal to switch off the backlight if and only if there is no difference between the s

Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-05-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> A small amount of testing would be very good, yes. We don't expect > any changes to be visible outside of the firmware and battery charging > (behavior should be better in the presence of batteries with extremely > low charge), but we should double-check that everything looks normal. > Seems

Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
As I understand 802 differs from 801 only in the firmware. Is it true? Shall I test 802 if I have been using 801 for a long time? Will anybody fix kernel/X errors if I report them? Holt wrote: > The build is now signed so you don't even need a developer key: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
> Actually, GNOME 3.0 is moving into that direction (requiring OpenGL): > http://lwn.net/Articles/327845/ > > Hehe, seems like that I have just invented Clutter... :) More seriously, it seems that Sugar just runs ahead of Gnome and reinvents almost everything which will be created by Gnome peo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server process, using a compositing windows manager, rewriting GTK+ to use some form of retained ren

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> But this should improve with VIA now having employed Harald Welte of > gnuviolations.org fame to help them move forward in the open source > world. They have released their drivers and some manuals for their > GPUs now. So no 3D just yet, but then that's not exactly a regression > compared to th

Re: #9307 NORM Not Tri: 100% reliable way to test a DCON creates the wrong colors bug

2009-04-20 Thread NoiseEHC
it will be fixed ever so never mind.) Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: > #9307: 100% reliable way to test a DCON creates the wrong colors bug > -+-- > Reporter: NoiseEHC | O

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I would like to ask these questions from OLPC staff: Does this also mean that people who already own XOs will find that new software is going to require a computer more powerful than they currently have? I thought that that was something that was going to be specifically avoided. This

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left?

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: Cannot comment on the first part, I have no idea how this linux distro development thing goes... > this is a much simpler question: there's a lot of work going on > in sugarland to help activity writers. since activities are released > independently, the "distribution" a

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> I don't know what your simple program does, but it sounds like it > could be a Sugar bug. You should file a ticket at dev.sugarlabs.org. > If it is not related to Sugar, we'll try to pass the report along to > the proper place. > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/465 > It does sound like NM. Lo

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Daniel Drake wrote: > It is unlikely that you (as a user, rather than a deployment) > reporting bugs to OLPC will result in another software release *direct > from OLPC* (such as 8.2.2), because development of 8.2.x is mostly > discontinued and will really only be driven by deployments. > Have you

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: > noiseehc wrote: > > The question remains whether we make it rotate to match the closed ebook > > mode or match the rotated opened-like-a-book mode. > > there's no good answer to this, because there's no way to make it > "do t

What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Sorry, I wanted to post it toplevel. p...@laptop.org wrote: > but like david, i think > that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or > champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development, > and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w > platforms ju

What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: > but like david, i think > that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or > champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development, > and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w > platforms just as strongly as the XO -- and other pla

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
t; Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: >> Jordan Crouse wrote: >>> NoiseEHC wrote: >>> >>>> 2. An Xvideo RGB overlay displays the big nothing (black) while the >>>> screen is rotated. >>> Indeed - XV is purposely turned off when the screen is rotated (or

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> in any case, so far i've heard no good argument against rotating > the touchscreen to match the screen. it may not be the most > convenient way to use or hold the laptop, but it would be better than > the current situation where screen rotation makes the touchpad > almost completely useless. >

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Eben Eliason wrote: > This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless. That's just my opinion, of course. > > The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never > made to be. I'll continue to suggest that the cursor simply be > automatically hidden in handheld mode, and that a simpl

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:06 +0100, NoiseEHC wrote: Hello! Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is below the directional buttons on the display part): 1. When the screen is rotated the mouse does not so if I turn the XO to be able to

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
do not have enough linux programming experience to do this otherwise I would have been already done that. > noiseehc wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is > > below the directional buttons on the display pa

rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Hello! Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is below the directional buttons on the display part): 1. When the screen is rotated the mouse does not so if I turn the XO to be able to read letters, I cannot navigate with the mouse. 2. An Xvideo RGB overlay displays

Re: OS/X11 support for XO-1 hardware?

2009-02-26 Thread NoiseEHC
If you need it for some game then here is how to do it: attached. A little question to Jordan Crouse or anybody else who can answer. Here Jodran told me that the Geode can do XV flipping: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-May/005208.html It can be that he either did not reflect to that

testing 8.2.1 - 800

2009-02-24 Thread NoiseEHC
I had some time lately and tested the latest signed release. I have reimaged (with 4 button pressed start) my XO and after that installed activities via olpc-update and some yum mc/gcc/make/X11-devel/Xv-devel. I did not copied my developer key to /security this time. The extreme power manageme

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-24 Thread NoiseEHC
are not enough developers or because it is not technically sound? Jordan Crouse wrote: > On 25/10/08 00:00 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> The Geode X drive copyes every bit of data to the command ring buffer by >> using the CPU so that is sure that those "almost no CPU

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-24 Thread NoiseEHC
The Geode X drive copyes every bit of data to the command ring buffer by using the CPU so that is sure that those "almost no CPU cycles" thing is at least a bit stretch... :) According to Jordan Crouse it will not be better but he was not too concrete so in the end I am not sure what he was rea

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
> as a G1G1 user one annoyance of enabling power savings is the screen > dimming while I am reading a page. I thought this was supposed to be > improved, but I saw the same thing when I upgraded to 767 a week ago. > > > +1 I did not try 767 but I have found it very irritating in 763. ___

Re: 9.1 Proposal: shutdown menu

2008-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
In the old builds I could initiate a shutdown and close the lid and the XO just finished the shutdown. In the new builds when I close the lid the shutdown halts because of suspend (I think, can be mistaken). Could it be a little bit more clever about when to suspend? Or is it what you are referr

Re: journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread NoiseEHC
> We can do a little better than that, actually, by making it all one > prompt. It can have a name field, already filled out with the best > darn attempt at a name we can manage, a tag field (and perhaps even a > list of popular tags as well, to apply to it with a click or a > drag/drop), and but

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> To what end? AFAIK the zlib decompression (both in OFW and in the OS) > is not one of the primary problem areas. > Changing fs read from CPU bound to IO bound would change a lot of things, for example the boot could utilize a little bit of more concurrency. Unfortunately we will only see its

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
When I will finally have some time (currently I am working even on weekends) I will finish my half made zlib decompression code. Where is that Security hash's code? Mitch Bradley wrote: > > Memory to memory copy: 500 MB/s > Raw NAND FLASH read:20 MB/s > Security hash: 4 MB/s > > So

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, NoiseEHC wrote: > >>> can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to >>> free at that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access >>> it can do the hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) >>&g

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