Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-12 Thread Bastien
James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:19:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> but demanding that OLPC make them available in more places, and at the >> same time threatening them unless they provide dozens of localized >> versions, is not productive. > > Agreed.

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-10 Thread Bastien
"Sebastien Adgnot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because without an AZERTY keyboard, it will be hard to defend the > project here. Not only here in France, but in many french-speaking countries. Most of them use an AZERTY keyboard. -- Bastien ___ Deve

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastien Adgnot
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:07 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:28:34AM +0200, Sebastien Adgnot wrote: > > Do you have an idea of the minimum quantity required so the > > manufacturer could build laptops with localized keyboards? > > I'm sure they would. > >

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:19:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but demanding that OLPC make them available in more places, and at the > same time threatening them unless they provide dozens of localized > versions, is not productive. Agreed. If this is going to cost too much, just give up o

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread david
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Chris Leonard wrote: > >> >> What about to delivery plain intn'l machines with default keyboard and >> then set up some stocks of nationalized keyboards (FR, DE, IT, GR, etc.. ) >> and offer them at a price that's commisurated to the production cost of the >> keyboard itself (

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Carlo Falciola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about to delivery plain intn'l machines with default keyboard and > then set up some stocks of nationalized keyboards (FR, DE, IT, GR, etc.. ) > and offer them at a price that's commisurated to the production cost

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread Andreas . Trawoeger
Hi Kim! "Kim Quirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 09.06.2008 06:12:48: > We are hoping that the company we partner with for the G1G1 program > will bring some knowledge to us about what is needed for each > country where we want to ship. We will start with that information > and then figure o

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:28:34AM +0200, Sebastien Adgnot wrote: > Do you have an idea of the minimum quantity required so the > manufacturer could build laptops with localized keyboards? I'm sure they would. It wouldn't be a minimum quantity per se, it would be a set of quantities and how much

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastien Adgnot
> We have to forecast the parts many months ahead of when they can be built and shipped; and our manufacturer cannot build small quantities of anything Do you have an idea of the minimum quantity required so the manufacturer could build laptops with localized keyboards? Thanks Sebastien 2008/6/

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-08 Thread Kim Quirk
Hi Holger, We are hoping that the company we partner with for the G1G1 program will bring some knowledge to us about what is needed for each country where we want to ship. We will start with that information and then figure out the things that aren't understood. For instance, for products shipping

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Kim, On Tuesday 03 June 2008 21:48, Kim Quirk wrote: > Agreed, Ed. The legalities of each country need to be determined and > met before we can include that country in a Give One Get One program. > > Some of the things we need to understand are: Certifications, > language/keyboard requirements,

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:39 AM, LASKE, Lionel (C2S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Edward, Hi Kim, > > Many thanks for your answer. > >> >> setxkbmap fr >> > Okay, I will try it. Of course, I need to stick some little stamps on each > key :-) I don't know sources in Europe, but one of the best

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-03 Thread Kim Quirk
Agreed, Ed. The legalities of each country need to be determined and met before we can include that country in a Give One Get One program. Some of the things we need to understand are: Certifications, language/keyboard requirements, messaging, non-profit status, shipping, customs, support and warr

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
FYI, Bernie, Arjun, and I had begun a transition away from Compose keys even for the US International keyboard. I don't know if OLPC has decided to go down that path or not, but it has been paved. -walter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org htt

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
7;ve got could be: >> "Hmmm it's a funny machine, do you have a French Keyboard ?" >> >> So, yes I'm really think that we need an appropriate keyboard in France, >> like in Deutschland, in Italy and in others countries. >> >> My name is Li

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; So, yes I'm really think that we need an appropriate keyboard in France, like > in Deutschland, in Italy and in others countries. > > My name is Lionel, Lionel Laské (please, don't miss the accent on my name). Oui, bien sûr. > Regards. > > > Lionel. > > --

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-05-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam and Support gang, > > A second G1G1 program will still be only US/International keyboards > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts#US_International_keyboard). > There are too many logistics, production, forecasti

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-05-30 Thread Kim Quirk
Adam and Support gang, A second G1G1 program will still be only US/International keyboards (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts#US_International_keyboard). There are too many logistics, production, forecasting, and shipping issues associated with more than a couple of SKUs (different l