Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each of > those packages to put in the main distro. the versions of these seperate > packages are almost entirely independant of each other. they then do a lot of > testing and so

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 09:17 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each > > of > > those packages to put in the main distro. the versions of these seperate > > packages are almost

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 07.05.2008, at 22:11, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > > > > > >> And it's certainly no coincidence that the list of activities in >

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is something I remember coming up a lot back when Red Hat first > started putting out Rawhide. We would get lots of tickets from people > who would install it and expect it to a) work and b) be supported. > This

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008/5/7 Steve Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Case in point, it bugs me when the wiki documents features of versions which > haven't been released yet, or declares a problem "fixed" because some later, > as yet unreleased version no longer shows the problem. > Well, it's correct to document features

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each >> of those packages to put in the main distro. the versions of these seperate >> packages are almost entirely independant o

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 09:17 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >> On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each of >>> those packages to put in the main distro. the versions of the

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On 09.05.2008, at 09:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 09:17 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >>> On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each of

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:59 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: >> We must fix this Help greatfully appreciated. It isn't very much >> work to get there from here. > > at the moment it doesn't seem as if there's agreement yet that this does > need to get fi

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 09.05.2008, at 09:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 09:17 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ubuntu takes packages maintane

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:59 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: >>> We must fix this Help greatfully appreciated. It isn't very much >>> work to get there from here. >> >> at the moment it doesn't seem as

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what about Sugar software running as well as possible on normal linux > boxes? without having to install the full sugar package and run > everything under sugar in one window. this doesn't mean that some > libraries won't need to be ins

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in part the other response to my message that seemed to have the attitude > that 'fixing' the problem would reduce Sugar to 'just another WM' rendering > it worthless. That's not how I read Greg post but anyway... > there have been ot

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On 09.05.2008, at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > which is why I fail to see the big point of Sugar. > [...] > a perfect example was the suggeation to make the sugarized > activities use > a standard file picker call so that it could go to the journal on > the XO > machine, or to a normal fi

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On 5/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each > >> of those packages to put in the main distro. the version

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what about Sugar software running as well as possible on normal linux > > boxes? without having to install the full sugar package and run > > everythi

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008/5/9 Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As for the sharing stuff, I know you can download and use the telepathy > libs, but would you also need a presence service running? Could this be > automatically started when an app wants to collaborate, or is it something > that would have to be runn

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

> > unfortunantly my time constraints drasticly limit the code I can > > work on, > > so I am mostly a tester and a provider of resources to nearby > > developers > > (I just received my two g1g1 machines back from the USC hackathon) > > > There is agreement that unmodified Linux software sh

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

Bobby Powers wrote: > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > what about Sugar software running as well as possibl

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 15:30 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote: > > The way I see it it is somewhat of a two way street. Personally, if > I'm going to run Sugar apps in Gnome I would prefer them to integrate > nicely with my other apps, just as I would prefer apps running in > Sugar to be 'sugary

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Bobby Powers wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote:

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 09.05.2008, at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> which is why I fail to see the big point of Sugar. >> [...] >> a perfect example was the suggeation to make the sugarized >> activities use >> a standard file picker call so that it could go to the

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Fri, 9 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> On 09.05.2008, at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> which is why I fail to see the big point of Sugar. >>> [...] >>> a perfect example was the suggeation to make the sugarized activities >>> use

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

8 4:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model On 10.05.2008 00:13, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 09.05.2008, at 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Bert, >> if you try and say that the entire world is wrong in how it writes >> software, >&

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Education <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; OLPC Devel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 4:59:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model > > On 10.05.2008 00:13, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >&

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Frankly, I don't see a logic difference between Negroponte talking > about extending the OLPC hardware to Windows (presumably to increase > recognition of the OLPC), and those talking about extending Sugar > to a standard desktop (presumably to increase recognition of

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

Slight correction, I should have said GNU/Linux below. Bernie Innocenti wrote: Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Frankly, I don't see a logic difference between Negroponte talking > about extending the OLPC hardware to Windows (presumably to increase > recognition of the OLPC), and those talking about

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

Hi David, unfortunately I don't have time right now to enter again in this debate, but I wanted to do one comment: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > many people have pointed out the limitations of the journal approach, and > problems with not naming activites and fil

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have always believed we need Sugar. One only has to watch a child > struggle with a conventional desktop (Windows, Linux or Mac) to see the > need It's a lot more than that . When you contrast the current WIMP UI and gener

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have always believed we need Sugar. One only has to watch a child > > struggle with a conventional desktop (Windows, Linux or Mac) to see the

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have always believed we need Sugar. One only has to watch